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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 7464636" data-attributes="member: 6669384">I was looking for a toxic elemental to use in my D&amp;D 3.5 game, and the closest I could find on short notice was an Acid Elemental from Pathfinder.I picked an Elder (the biggest/nastiest) for the party (12th through 14th level), and situated in a polluted/acidic/toxic pond he put up one hell of a fight.Now comes the hard part:&nbsp; Awarding Exp.D&amp;D uses CR, and Pathfinder gives a flat EXP value.&nbsp; I prefer the CR system for our game, because it takes level differences into account.&nbsp; Lower levels face a bigger threat, and get bigger EXP for it.&nbsp; (That's right out of the EXP tables in the DMG, so it isn't a house rule or anything).Elder Elementals in D&amp;D have 24 D8 plus CON in hit points, with two of them showing total of 209 hit points and two showing 228 (CON difference).The Elder Acid Quasi-Elemental from Pathfinder shows 12 D12 plus CON in hit points, for a total of 114.&nbsp; Gives it a correspondingly lower attack bonus (+17 total as opposed to the +25, +26 and +27 of the D&amp;D Elders.)Armor Class is about the same, and they have the same DR.Melee damage is similar, though the Pathfinder monster is on the light end (D8 + 7 + D8 Acid v 2D8 +8 and higher). The D&amp;D Elder elementals are listed at CR 11.How would you rate the Pathfinder version?(Note:&nbsp; Since I was adapting it as a &quot;Toxic Elemental&quot; rather than an Acid Elemental, I gave mine a Corrupt Water ability that let it adapt its environment.&nbsp; Acid Elementals actually take damage from fresh water, and can't swim in it at all.)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 7464636, member: 6669384"] I was looking for a toxic elemental to use in my D&D 3.5 game, and the closest I could find on short notice was an Acid Elemental from Pathfinder. I picked an Elder (the biggest/nastiest) for the party (12th through 14th level), and situated in a polluted/acidic/toxic pond he put up one hell of a fight. Now comes the hard part: Awarding Exp. D&D uses CR, and Pathfinder gives a flat EXP value. I prefer the CR system for our game, because it takes level differences into account. Lower levels face a bigger threat, and get bigger EXP for it. (That's right out of the EXP tables in the DMG, so it isn't a house rule or anything). Elder Elementals in D&D have 24 D8 plus CON in hit points, with two of them showing total of 209 hit points and two showing 228 (CON difference). The Elder Acid Quasi-Elemental from Pathfinder shows 12 D12 plus CON in hit points, for a total of 114. Gives it a correspondingly lower attack bonus (+17 total as opposed to the +25, +26 and +27 of the D&D Elders.) Armor Class is about the same, and they have the same DR. Melee damage is similar, though the Pathfinder monster is on the light end (D8 + 7 + D8 Acid v 2D8 +8 and higher). The D&D Elder elementals are listed at CR 11. How would you rate the Pathfinder version? (Note: Since I was adapting it as a "Toxic Elemental" rather than an Acid Elemental, I gave mine a Corrupt Water ability that let it adapt its environment. Acid Elementals actually take damage from fresh water, and can't swim in it at all.) [/QUOTE]

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