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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 6381554" data-attributes="member: 57383">The text of this post is set to COLOR=#000000, which makes it nigh illegible when viewing this website in "Eric Noah" Style. That used to happen to me sometimes when cutting & pasting from another source.Actually, the Dire Toad has 26 average hit points, not 18 - it's a 3E creature so gets its +2 Con bonus on each of its four Hit Dice. It's also either Medium sized (Monster Manual II) or Small (Masters of the Wild) so is unable to swallow Man-sized victims like the 5E version, which is Large sized.The AD&D Giant Toad is also M-sized but only has 2 HD and comes in both regular and poisonous varieties, neither of which can Swallow Whole - although the AD&D Giant Frog does have that special attack.I'd eyeball the 5E version as being roughly equivalent to the 3E one, but it's considerably stronger than the AD&D one. If someone wants to use an AD&D scenario with Giant Toads in 5E they may want to whip up a cut-down version of the creature that's a Medium sized 3 or 4 HD monster. I'm already conversant with the hit point / damage inflation that's occurred over editions.Of course, that's not the only thing that matters when comparing different editions of a monster.Checking the 5E version of the Giant Octopus it's noticeably that it's considerably less dangerous than earlier versions, but that's not mainly due to HP inflation, but because the earlier version has multiple attacks - up to eight constricting tentacles plus a beak, while the 5E version only has a single "Tentacles" attack.You'd likely need several 5E Giant Octopodes to pose as dangerous a challenge to a party of adventures as a single AD&D or 3E one would.Of the three Giant creatures you mentioned, the Giant Hyena is the only one that appears very close in comparative effectiveness to the AD&D/3E versions.</blockquote>

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