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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 7653814" data-attributes="member: 57383">Hmm, looking up the Fiend Folio there's no mention of the Canomorphs and Barghests being related. The flavour text says Canomorphs are created by demons and devils by giving a "fiendish hound" the ability to assume humanoid form. Barghests are born from barghest parents, not created.Mechanically the two are quite different. The Canomorphs are shapechangers based on existing 3E canine monsters - the Haraknin is a Hell Hound Canomorph, the Shadurakul is a Shadow Mastiff Canomorph and the Vulvitor is a Vorr Canomorph. They are built in a similar manner to Lycanthropes using a fiendish canine as a "base animal" - the sample Haraknin's  stats, for example, is pretty much a 2nd level barbarian  "were-hellhound". Canomorphs have advancement by character level, their special  abilities are the same as their canine-equivalent (e.g. the "Hell Hound" Canomorph has fire breath) plus the ability to change shape and command  their canine-equivalents. Their Change Shape ability allows them to turn into any Small to Large size humanoid, they're not limited to one race like a Barghest only being able to become a goblin.The Barghest may be able to turn into a wolf, but it doesn't get a wolf's special abilities (e.g. Trip, low-light vision and +4 to track by scent), plus it advances by Hit Dice using its special Feed ability. It also has spell-like abilities, damage reduction, and darkvision, which none of the Fiend Folio Canomorphs have.Overall, I think they're unrelated creatures.Oh, as well as the Canomorph there's also  the "Canoloth", a variety of Yugoloth who debuted in the Planescape Monstrous Compendium II. The 3E version is in Monster Manual III. They're unrelated to Canomorphs, since Canoloths aren't shapechangers.Barghests aren't Yugoloths, so the two aren't related either, despite them both being vaguely-canine creatures native to Gehenna.</blockquote>

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