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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Cleon" data-source="post: 8913723" data-attributes="member: 57383">Second, some definite errors and possible corrections…Errurs?Pretty sure that should be fourth printing onwards.My "3rd Edition, December 1978" softback of the 1E Monster Manual has Type I, but I have a pdf that's "4th Edition, August, 1979" which has Type I (Vrock) as stated above.It's also worth mentioning that "Vrock" is these demons' true name in First Edition AD&D, so can be used with spells for summoning or controlling them. Curiously, the weaker demons (Type I to III)* don't have individual true names in 1E, so all Type I demons are named "Vrock", which might make conversations difficult…"Hello Vrock, have you seen Vrock recently? I heard he had a big fight with the Vrock sisters and they threw him out of their nest."COMMENT: Well, not seriously. Demons wouldn't use their true name in casual conversation unless they're really stupid demons. Maybe Vrocks use nicknames or the like to differentiate between themselves, or just don't view other Type I demons as individuals that need their own appellation. That might explain how 2E Vrocks "fight in coordination with each other with perfect timing and synchronicity." If a vrock literally doesn't view other vrocks as being different from itself, but rather "another me" who it communicates with telepathically, synchronicity between vrocks should arise spontaneously. :/COMMENT*Type IV to VI have individual names in 1E. The reason there's an etc. in their listing, as in Type VI (Balor, etc.) is that "Balor" is the name of one demon in 1E, not all Type VI demons. It's only in 2E that Balor became the name for every demon (or rather "Tanar'ri") of that type.The 1E Dungeon Master's Guide lists names for the various demon Types in APPENDIX E: ALPHABETICAL MONSTER LISTING, as follows:Type I (vrock) Type II (hezrou) Type III (glabrezu) Type IV (Bilwhr, Johud, Nalfeshnee) Type V (Aishapra, Kevokulli, Marilith, Rehnaremme) Type VI (Alzoll, Balor, Errtu, Ndulu, Ter-soth, Wendonai)Come to think of it, which was published earlier? The 4th printing of the MM that uses Type I (Vrock) or a printing of the DMG that has Type I (vrock) in its appendixes? There are multiple editions of the 1E DMG and I don't know which of them have the demon's names in APPENDIX E.That second eventually seems superfluous, although there's nothing wrong with it grammatically.That issue of Dragon was December 1982, but some of spells in the magazine's "From the Sorceror's Scroll" article are also in the pullout section of S4 - The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth (1982).Admittedly, the S4 pullout spells didn't include truename, but it does include spells and magic items that refer to personal names, which is the same concept.For example S4's description of the Demononicon of Iggwilv has "The Dungeon Master may include descriptive material and personal names as appropriate. (Note that a creature's personal name is always kept secret, as these can be used for magical purposes. Such creatures also have a common name which is the only one they will reveal to others.)".Didn't S4 come out slightly before Dragon #68?Unfortunately, I can't find a definite release date for the 1982 The Lost Caverns of Tsojcanth, but the spells in its pullout section are less polished. The spells in Dragon #68 have longer and more elaborate text than the same spell in S4.That could be confused for the ends of the feathers or the wing's outer edge rather than what a pinion actually is, one of the <a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flight_feather" target="_blank"> outermost primary flight feathers</a>.Would it not be better to say monster summoning can only summon a vrock with the 9th-level VII spell, not that monster summoning VII is the only way to summon them in First Edition AD&D? There's plenty of other spells and abilities that summon vrocks in 1E.The fiendbinder is a prestige class, not a class.Should it be an arrow of slaying demons considering it's an arrow of slaying with "demons" as its target creature? Or possibly, a arrow of demon slaying or demon slaying arrow? For what it's worth, the equivalent swords usually put a space before "slayer", e.g. the 1E AD&D Dungeon Master's Guide has "Sword +2, Giant Slayer" as the listing for a giant slayer sword.</blockquote>

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