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<blockquote data-quote="Crusher" data-source="post: 5973928" data-attributes="member: 6697285"><p>The webcomic Order of the Stick (which some folks might already be aware of or read) is a great webcomic based in a world run by, with a few exceptions, version 3.5 ADD rules. Here's a link to a recent page: <a href="http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0858.html" target="_blank">Giant In the Playground Games</a> </p><p></p><p>OotS has been running for several years now and one of the great mysteries of the comic is the classification of a creature known only as the "Monster in the Dark" or MitD. Its a fairly major character which for plot related reasons is always in some kind of darkness and is (mostly) unseen. Rich Burlew, the author, has indicated that the MitD *is* a specific type of monster and that it is guessable and its actions in various scenes have given a number of clues as to what it could be. </p><p></p><p>Some of us have been pondering this question for the last few years, and here's a link to the most recent version of the discussion thread which also lists the pros and cons of everything that has been proposed, and the 6 or 7 monsters which do the best job of fitting the 3 most prominent hints. <a href="http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231404" target="_blank">MitD V: MitD and the Templates of Doom (Please Read the First Post) - Giant in the Playground Forums</a></p><p></p><p>While we've covered an immense amount of ground, as y'all are probably aware there are a HUGE number of monsters out there once you include 3rd party material, etc. One of the biggest areas we have not gone through yet are the monsters originally introduced in Dragon Magazine (obviously they'd have to be updated to 3.5 to see if they work) but there are probably plenty of other places we haven't thought to look.</p><p></p><p>So, this is kind of a major nexus for monster discussion, so I figured I'd ask here and see if anyone had any ideas and/or was willing to help.</p><p></p><p>There's far more detail on the link I put above, but as kind of a TL;DR, here's some of the MitD's major characteristics.</p><p></p><p>1) Powerful - Min CR of 14-16 and really probably 18+</p><p>2) Not terribly big - Huge or smaller, ideally Large</p><p>3) Extremely strong - Minimum STR of 30 or so (alternatively, really powerful telekinesis or the like could work)</p><p>4) Very tough to injure - Near Epic or Epic defenses against physical attacks, through some combination of high DR, extremely high HP or high AC</p><p>5) Able to teleport others at a distance - So, access to greater teleport though something like Wish or equivalent would arguably work better</p><p>6) Really freaky looking (no specifics, but it must be hard to recognize and fills viewers with a strong sense of fear or disgust. However, its not so strong as to be an actual effect aura)</p><p>7) Must eat and sleep and be sentient (so not a construct or undead or elemental. Outsider is probably ok, though)</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Crusher, post: 5973928, member: 6697285"] The webcomic Order of the Stick (which some folks might already be aware of or read) is a great webcomic based in a world run by, with a few exceptions, version 3.5 ADD rules. Here's a link to a recent page: [url=http://www.giantitp.com/comics/oots0858.html]Giant In the Playground Games[/url] OotS has been running for several years now and one of the great mysteries of the comic is the classification of a creature known only as the "Monster in the Dark" or MitD. Its a fairly major character which for plot related reasons is always in some kind of darkness and is (mostly) unseen. Rich Burlew, the author, has indicated that the MitD *is* a specific type of monster and that it is guessable and its actions in various scenes have given a number of clues as to what it could be. Some of us have been pondering this question for the last few years, and here's a link to the most recent version of the discussion thread which also lists the pros and cons of everything that has been proposed, and the 6 or 7 monsters which do the best job of fitting the 3 most prominent hints. [url=http://www.giantitp.com/forums/showthread.php?t=231404]MitD V: MitD and the Templates of Doom (Please Read the First Post) - Giant in the Playground Forums[/url] While we've covered an immense amount of ground, as y'all are probably aware there are a HUGE number of monsters out there once you include 3rd party material, etc. One of the biggest areas we have not gone through yet are the monsters originally introduced in Dragon Magazine (obviously they'd have to be updated to 3.5 to see if they work) but there are probably plenty of other places we haven't thought to look. So, this is kind of a major nexus for monster discussion, so I figured I'd ask here and see if anyone had any ideas and/or was willing to help. There's far more detail on the link I put above, but as kind of a TL;DR, here's some of the MitD's major characteristics. 1) Powerful - Min CR of 14-16 and really probably 18+ 2) Not terribly big - Huge or smaller, ideally Large 3) Extremely strong - Minimum STR of 30 or so (alternatively, really powerful telekinesis or the like could work) 4) Very tough to injure - Near Epic or Epic defenses against physical attacks, through some combination of high DR, extremely high HP or high AC 5) Able to teleport others at a distance - So, access to greater teleport though something like Wish or equivalent would arguably work better 6) Really freaky looking (no specifics, but it must be hard to recognize and fills viewers with a strong sense of fear or disgust. However, its not so strong as to be an actual effect aura) 7) Must eat and sleep and be sentient (so not a construct or undead or elemental. Outsider is probably ok, though) [/QUOTE]
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