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<blockquote data-quote="FurryFighter" data-source="post: 4931630" data-attributes="member: 85087">which is why the best DMs will throw in a fight where there are a small horde (10) of level -2 monsters, to appear to be minions, while the real minions are in a group of 6. Someone blows a daily to kill off all the &quot;minions&quot; at once, and surprise! Now naturally, the PCs will send the ranged units to the side closer to the &quot;minions&quot; and the melee to block the other smaller group of &quot;normies&quot;.The warning sign will be the daily not instantly killing them, and all of the sudden theres 3 guys each swarming the paper armor artillery PCs lol.then of course, a DM could allow a percep check to determine who is who. I think goblins would be a good setup for this, since they look very similar to each other, and it would take a PC with a lot of experience (see insight or dungeoneering) to be able to passively tell who the tougher are, and perception as an active role to determine that otherwise.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="FurryFighter, post: 4931630, member: 85087"] which is why the best DMs will throw in a fight where there are a small horde (10) of level -2 monsters, to appear to be minions, while the real minions are in a group of 6. Someone blows a daily to kill off all the "minions" at once, and surprise! Now naturally, the PCs will send the ranged units to the side closer to the "minions" and the melee to block the other smaller group of "normies". The warning sign will be the daily not instantly killing them, and all of the sudden theres 3 guys each swarming the paper armor artillery PCs lol. then of course, a DM could allow a percep check to determine who is who. I think goblins would be a good setup for this, since they look very similar to each other, and it would take a PC with a lot of experience (see insight or dungeoneering) to be able to passively tell who the tougher are, and perception as an active role to determine that otherwise. [/QUOTE]

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