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<blockquote data-quote="Elric" data-source="post: 4806491" data-attributes="member: 1139"><p>I don't think WotC should necessarily errata all of the MM1 solos to correspond to the new solo guidelines, though including a (free) detailed discussion of how their basic guidelines changed (so you can change the MM1 numbers yourself) would be nice. The Fen Hydra would still be a very bad solo if it had -20% HP, -2 to all defenses, and, say, +40% damage. That's a sign it should definitely receive errata.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Mutants and Masterminds updates their rulebooks to correspond to known errata on new printings and issues new versions of errata accordingly. At the moment, there’s the original book, the 2nd/3rd printings, and the most recent printings, which include all known errata for earlier printings. So that’s only 3 errata files to worry about. It certainly seems superior to the potential alternative of not updating new printings with known errata.</p><p></p><p>As long as the errata are (reverse) cumulative (which it will be if you don’t make new mistakes when updating the book for new printings); when you add something to the 2nd printing errata, you add it to the 1st printing errata as well. So it just means updating more errata documents.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>My original post quotes and links to a column saying that redesigning Orcus in accord with MM2’s solo guidelines would reduce his HP by 20%, give him -2 defenses, and increase his damage while bloodied by 50%. I think this set of changes would generally make solos too weak, as if you assume that the solo is bloodied half the time, this is only +25% damage, which would balance -20% HP fine, but not -2 to defenses on top of that. +40% damage seems more appropriate.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Elric, post: 4806491, member: 1139"] I don't think WotC should necessarily errata all of the MM1 solos to correspond to the new solo guidelines, though including a (free) detailed discussion of how their basic guidelines changed (so you can change the MM1 numbers yourself) would be nice. The Fen Hydra would still be a very bad solo if it had -20% HP, -2 to all defenses, and, say, +40% damage. That's a sign it should definitely receive errata. Mutants and Masterminds updates their rulebooks to correspond to known errata on new printings and issues new versions of errata accordingly. At the moment, there’s the original book, the 2nd/3rd printings, and the most recent printings, which include all known errata for earlier printings. So that’s only 3 errata files to worry about. It certainly seems superior to the potential alternative of not updating new printings with known errata. As long as the errata are (reverse) cumulative (which it will be if you don’t make new mistakes when updating the book for new printings); when you add something to the 2nd printing errata, you add it to the 1st printing errata as well. So it just means updating more errata documents. My original post quotes and links to a column saying that redesigning Orcus in accord with MM2’s solo guidelines would reduce his HP by 20%, give him -2 defenses, and increase his damage while bloodied by 50%. I think this set of changes would generally make solos too weak, as if you assume that the solo is bloodied half the time, this is only +25% damage, which would balance -20% HP fine, but not -2 to defenses on top of that. +40% damage seems more appropriate. [/QUOTE]
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