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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6455526" data-attributes="member: 92511">Well then I stand corrected. I didn't know there was a PHB2 for 3x. So purely a WotC money grab then? Make books sound important because you're going to call it a heretofore "core" book title.And there wasn't any "edition warring" going on. It was a statement of the facts as I understood them. Now I know...and knowing is half the battle. The fact it was begun with 3x has no baring on the need of the concept [having multiple PHBs is ok] to die.The rest of your examples are precisely what I am talking about/sharing my point. Make supplements.Make an Unearthed Arcana. Make a Complete Priest (given the structure of Domains and the whole "here's examples of a bunch of gods from all different D&D worlds", I would expect this to be entitled "Deities & Demigods" and contain all kinds of cleric PC & NPC specifc/related shtuff moreso than a MM of divine beings]. That's all great.But for an edition, only 1 PHB is necessary. And, no, in 1 and 2e, [neither 3 nor 4 I would think] none of that stuff was NEEDED to make characters. They just put it out for folks to use. Some folks took that as, they put this in a book so "it's mine"/has to be used and some took it, as intended, that these were extra add-ons to be used if you wanted.Putting together another book and calling it a "PHB" gives the material an understood and inherent importance that it, obviously, does not warrant.I would LOVE to see a player options [more subclasses, backgrounds, spells & magic items...races -eh. I could do without, but you know folks want 'em, so...] in a 1e-style Unearthed Arcana. I would love to see setting-specific PC options in setting books: be that an "Oriental Adventures" or "Al'Quadim" or [I personally would] make a series out of them "Eberron Arcana", "Dark Sun Arcana", etc etc.Splats and bloat are a problem when you are/have stretched things so thin that these books are creating are full of stuff that is sooooo corner case and/or setting specific and/or out of balance with the rest of the races/classes in the game, they have no business in an "official" book at all. Let the fan-creation websites/Dragon & Kobold magazines of the world handle those kinds of things.Frankly, if you want to talk avoiding splats & bloat [which it sounds like you want to do, given your snide comments pre-3e, but I'm sure it's not meant as edition-warring], there's NO need for a PHB2 at all, given the # of race and class options we already have. Of course, lots of folks have 'their versions/ideas" of what some class should look like and/or some race they simply MUST play that, we all know, means more player options will be getting published in something somehow. But giving a "status" as a PHB is not a good idea.</blockquote>

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