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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Prism" data-source="post: 6905395" data-attributes="member: 9501">I'm not sure that's a problem with the 5e system as such, but rather the encounter guidelines don't take into account the relative skill of the players. Some groups play completely non optimally with some characters doing very little during combat, others trying to push/trip/confuse the monsters when ideally they would be better of actually attacking. For a group like this (and I have seen/heard of a few) the published encounters based on the general guidelines are about right. They don't work for reasonably optimal groups - and I mean both during character progression and during encounters. Basically the modules seemed aimed at the fairly casual player in terms of difficulty.We have played a fair bit of home written high level 5e play and our encounters are pretty tough when appropriate. I don't even refer to the encounter guidelines.Our 20th level (converted) characters are laden with useful items but a fight with Grazzt, two type 5 demons, 3 succubus, 2 fire giants and a summoned balor was pretty epic.Then again a single demilich also nearly tpk'd us</blockquote>