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<blockquote data-quote="Albert_Fish" data-source="post: 840353" data-attributes="member: 1780">Well guys, i hope i am understadning Sheol's post and then everyone elses as well.Sheol got an answer that says&nbsp; a&nbsp; monster&nbsp; may&nbsp; amke its&nbsp; primary attack with however many limbs it has listed (ie&nbsp; An owlbear has&nbsp; a Claw/ Claw, Bite routine.&nbsp; I thinkit is&nbsp;&nbsp; +7/+7, +2.&nbsp; Notice how the&nbsp; claw attacks come&nbsp;&nbsp; prior to the&nbsp; comma.&nbsp; This means they are one attack and should always be treated as such.To limit the&nbsp; power of this ( which is not every powerful,&nbsp; most&nbsp; natural weapon using&nbsp; monsters not&nbsp; be able to&nbsp; take&nbsp; decent feats or&nbsp; use magical items) say&nbsp; both&nbsp; attacks&nbsp; must be directed towards one opponent.pounce is&nbsp; generally&nbsp; left&nbsp; only to those&nbsp; animals&nbsp; who also use&nbsp;&nbsp; their&nbsp; Rear Claws (Felines in most cases) when&nbsp; attacking.I&nbsp; dare you to&nbsp; stick your hand in a&nbsp; cat fight, you will see how&nbsp;&nbsp; Pounce works.&nbsp; They&nbsp; use every attack as&nbsp; quick as lightning to&nbsp; rip your&nbsp; damn fool hand off.We have&nbsp; been&nbsp; reading the rule as such for a long while.&nbsp; if&nbsp; the&nbsp; two claw attacks were Iterative attacks then they would be listed as such.The&nbsp; Fixed&nbsp; Damage&nbsp;&nbsp; question baffles me.&nbsp; Why&nbsp; couldnt a&nbsp; dragon&nbsp; concentrate its bonuses into some other attack? perhaps this is&nbsp; what a&nbsp; feat&nbsp; could be used for&nbsp; or&nbsp; perhaps it should be a reflection of the&nbsp;&nbsp; monster's intelligence/wisdom.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Albert_Fish, post: 840353, member: 1780"] Well guys, i hope i am understadning Sheol's post and then everyone elses as well. Sheol got an answer that says a monster may amke its primary attack with however many limbs it has listed (ie An owlbear has a Claw/ Claw, Bite routine. I thinkit is +7/+7, +2. Notice how the claw attacks come prior to the comma. This means they are one attack and should always be treated as such. To limit the power of this ( which is not every powerful, most natural weapon using monsters not be able to take decent feats or use magical items) say both attacks must be directed towards one opponent. pounce is generally left only to those animals who also use their Rear Claws (Felines in most cases) when attacking. I dare you to stick your hand in a cat fight, you will see how Pounce works. They use every attack as quick as lightning to rip your damn fool hand off. We have been reading the rule as such for a long while. if the two claw attacks were Iterative attacks then they would be listed as such. The Fixed Damage question baffles me. Why couldnt a dragon concentrate its bonuses into some other attack? perhaps this is what a feat could be used for or perhaps it should be a reflection of the monster's intelligence/wisdom. [/QUOTE]

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