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<blockquote data-quote="Nebulous" data-source="post: 4921735" data-attributes="member: 31465"><p>I've found that a good trap can be the tipping scale in an encounter, no matter how tough the PCs are. Especially a trap they can't escape or deactivate and that does not harm the monsters but hurts the PCs. I would use such a combo sparingly, but if you want to kill players "legally" without throwing Orcus at them, that's a good way to do it. </p><p></p><p>Also, expecting to kill 4e characters at full strength, all Dailies and all HS is just about impossible. I would wait until they're down on resouces before you spring the nasty stuff.</p><p></p><p>And coup de grace. Players will whine and moan and bitch about this, but given that a PC can spring up the next round and be just as dangerous when he/she was dying 6 seconds ago is incentive for *smart* monsters to make sure that PC doesn't stand up again.</p><p></p><p>I see players say "But why would that hobgoblin attack the downed rogue when there is a fighter right beside him?" Well, is it abusing metagame knowledge to know that the leader will give that rogue a two HS boost within seconds if i DON'T try to kill him?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Nebulous, post: 4921735, member: 31465"] I've found that a good trap can be the tipping scale in an encounter, no matter how tough the PCs are. Especially a trap they can't escape or deactivate and that does not harm the monsters but hurts the PCs. I would use such a combo sparingly, but if you want to kill players "legally" without throwing Orcus at them, that's a good way to do it. Also, expecting to kill 4e characters at full strength, all Dailies and all HS is just about impossible. I would wait until they're down on resouces before you spring the nasty stuff. And coup de grace. Players will whine and moan and bitch about this, but given that a PC can spring up the next round and be just as dangerous when he/she was dying 6 seconds ago is incentive for *smart* monsters to make sure that PC doesn't stand up again. I see players say "But why would that hobgoblin attack the downed rogue when there is a fighter right beside him?" Well, is it abusing metagame knowledge to know that the leader will give that rogue a two HS boost within seconds if i DON'T try to kill him? [/QUOTE]
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