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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Umbran" data-source="post: 9365627" data-attributes="member: 177">It isn't.I know a car guy.  He loves older cars.  He buys them, fixes them up, makes them into rolling art pieces sometimes.But he doesn't claim that old car design is actually equal or superior to current design.  Indeed, he admits that on almost every reasonable metric for automotive performance, newer cars are superior design.  There are sometimes points of visual esthetic he might quibble are better in older cars, but on technical matters, modern cars got his love beat.And he still loves them.  And he's okay with that.Liking a thing doesn't mean is has to be a paragon of design.  If someone's love of a thing means that critique of its design is anathema to them, that's more about them than about design.  Sorry.</blockquote>