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<blockquote data-quote="Haltherrion" data-source="post: 5560631" data-attributes="member: 18253"><p>I guess it depends what you mean by monster but if we've had good luck with some of the more exotic half-devils, dragons and such. In 3.5E it meant that we had to start the campaign at higher levels so that we could accomodate the ECLs.</p><p> </p><p>We've only done it in campaigns designed for it though, where the setting allowed for such a mix of critters. I can't say I've done it in a "normal" setting where some PCs are super exotic. DOn't see why you couldn't make it work with a few tweaks.</p><p> </p><p>The main issue we had with 3.5E is that it felt like the ECL was over called we usually dropped it by 1 or so. Being a monster is nice but PC levels count as well. Plus, I always felt that some classes were better suited than others to the ECL "tax". For instance, as a caster, you just want all your effective levels in the caster class so you can have spells appropriate to your level. It's not that much fun being effective level 12 but only casting 2nd level spells. Why bother being a caster?</p><p> </p><p>It is simplest if everyone has some ECL penalty and all are fairly close together. Of course, that's effectively no ECL but it does help.</p><p> </p><p>Anyway, we had a lot of fun with it. Certainly can be a nice change.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Haltherrion, post: 5560631, member: 18253"] I guess it depends what you mean by monster but if we've had good luck with some of the more exotic half-devils, dragons and such. In 3.5E it meant that we had to start the campaign at higher levels so that we could accomodate the ECLs. We've only done it in campaigns designed for it though, where the setting allowed for such a mix of critters. I can't say I've done it in a "normal" setting where some PCs are super exotic. DOn't see why you couldn't make it work with a few tweaks. The main issue we had with 3.5E is that it felt like the ECL was over called we usually dropped it by 1 or so. Being a monster is nice but PC levels count as well. Plus, I always felt that some classes were better suited than others to the ECL "tax". For instance, as a caster, you just want all your effective levels in the caster class so you can have spells appropriate to your level. It's not that much fun being effective level 12 but only casting 2nd level spells. Why bother being a caster? It is simplest if everyone has some ECL penalty and all are fairly close together. Of course, that's effectively no ECL but it does help. Anyway, we had a lot of fun with it. Certainly can be a nice change. [/QUOTE]
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