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<blockquote data-quote="Aurumvorax" data-source="post: 5053976" data-attributes="member: 87266"><p>Holy crap, this whole guarded/hidden/trapped conversation is absolutely ridiculous. If you want to be super literal then no, there's no such thing as an unguarded/unhidden/untrapped treasure because there'll <strong>always</strong> be some roadblock to getting it. Considering <em>every</em> module involves aspects of danger, even walking down the road, you could argue that a gold piece lying in the middle of the street was guarded by the previous encounter (if the PCs died fighting a dragon 5 days ago they wouldn't have found this shiny goldpiece, now would they?), hidden because it isn't directly obvious, or trapped because trying to pick it up runs the ever-so-small risk of being hit by a runaway donkey cart.</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>The pizza I keep in the fridge is therefor <em>hidden</em> from myself.</p><p> </p><p>I think we can agree to disagree, here. Whether or not there are examples of treasure sitting out in the open, <strong>all</strong> modules have a presence of danger. There are no free treasures because you will always have gone through some kind of trial or tribulation to reach it. You kill a band of hobgoblins and find a map that leads to their lair; inside you find a sack of gold lying in the middle of the floor. That gold was "guarded" but you just happened to kill the guards 10 miles away from their lair.</p><p> </p><p>As it applies to AD&D, intelligent monsters carry portable goods and spend wealth. Just because the DM rolls 5,000gp doesn't mean you'll find it in their lair. A tribe of goblins could've used the money to please a local dragon or spent it on bugbear mercenaries meaning the PCs may only find 1,000gp in the lair. Animals and plants likewise digest or discard treasure from their lairs as they clean up. If the DM rolls for a vorpal sword inside a bear's cave but decides he doesn't want the party to have it, lightning won't strike him down if he decides the bear dragged it to the river when he was cleaning his cave out.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Aurumvorax, post: 5053976, member: 87266"] Holy crap, this whole guarded/hidden/trapped conversation is absolutely ridiculous. If you want to be super literal then no, there's no such thing as an unguarded/unhidden/untrapped treasure because there'll [B]always[/B] be some roadblock to getting it. Considering [I]every[/I] module involves aspects of danger, even walking down the road, you could argue that a gold piece lying in the middle of the street was guarded by the previous encounter (if the PCs died fighting a dragon 5 days ago they wouldn't have found this shiny goldpiece, now would they?), hidden because it isn't directly obvious, or trapped because trying to pick it up runs the ever-so-small risk of being hit by a runaway donkey cart. The pizza I keep in the fridge is therefor [I]hidden[/I] from myself. I think we can agree to disagree, here. Whether or not there are examples of treasure sitting out in the open, [B]all[/B] modules have a presence of danger. There are no free treasures because you will always have gone through some kind of trial or tribulation to reach it. You kill a band of hobgoblins and find a map that leads to their lair; inside you find a sack of gold lying in the middle of the floor. That gold was "guarded" but you just happened to kill the guards 10 miles away from their lair. As it applies to AD&D, intelligent monsters carry portable goods and spend wealth. Just because the DM rolls 5,000gp doesn't mean you'll find it in their lair. A tribe of goblins could've used the money to please a local dragon or spent it on bugbear mercenaries meaning the PCs may only find 1,000gp in the lair. Animals and plants likewise digest or discard treasure from their lairs as they clean up. If the DM rolls for a vorpal sword inside a bear's cave but decides he doesn't want the party to have it, lightning won't strike him down if he decides the bear dragged it to the river when he was cleaning his cave out. [/QUOTE]
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