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<blockquote data-quote="Metalmaster" data-source="post: 5378603" data-attributes="member: 87714"><p>All by all i'm cool with the Monster Vault, I love the tokens (eventho I love those made by myself more, as I would never use boring monsters like Bloodseekerdrake or guard drake) and I love the full length story of the monsters in the book!</p><p>These I made myself, I have 200 different monsters as of now, mostly because I only want perfect pictures for them, some (like cave fisher) are impossible at this moment too bad...</p><p><a href="http://94.100.121.65/1161150001-1161200000/1161189001-1161189100/1161189010_6_BOxL.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.121.65/1161150001-1161200000/1161189001-1161189100/1161189010_6_BOxL.jpeg</a></p><p><a href="http://94.100.123.172/1161150001-1161200000/1161189101-1161189200/1161189154_6_0Hf3.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.123.172/1161150001-1161200000/1161189101-1161189200/1161189154_6_0Hf3.jpeg</a></p><p><a href="http://94.100.124.18/1161150001-1161200000/1161189201-1161189300/1161189292_6_NDMD.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.124.18/1161150001-1161200000/1161189201-1161189300/1161189292_6_NDMD.jpeg</a></p><p><a href="http://94.100.121.207/1161150001-1161200000/1161189401-1161189500/1161189414_6_oSoB.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.121.207/1161150001-1161200000/1161189401-1161189500/1161189414_6_oSoB.jpeg</a></p><p><a href="http://94.100.124.175/1161150001-1161200000/1161189501-1161189600/1161189568_6_FnrH.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.124.175/1161150001-1161200000/1161189501-1161189600/1161189568_6_FnrH.jpeg</a></p><p><a href="http://94.100.121.207/1161150001-1161200000/1161189701-1161189800/1161189701_6_TInw.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.121.207/1161150001-1161200000/1161189701-1161189800/1161189701_6_TInw.jpeg</a></p><p><a href="http://94.100.118.104/1161150001-1161200000/1161189801-1161189900/1161189845_6_PwKl.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.118.104/1161150001-1161200000/1161189801-1161189900/1161189845_6_PwKl.jpeg</a></p><p><a href="http://94.100.115.198/1161150001-1161200000/1161189901-1161190000/1161189992_6_BIWX.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.115.198/1161150001-1161200000/1161189901-1161190000/1161189992_6_BIWX.jpeg</a></p><p><a href="http://94.100.122.170/1161150001-1161200000/1161190101-1161190200/1161190114_6_DPdw.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.122.170/1161150001-1161200000/1161190101-1161190200/1161190114_6_DPdw.jpeg</a></p><p><a href="http://94.100.123.72/1161150001-1161200000/1161190201-1161190300/1161190235_6_NEx6.jpeg" target="_blank">http://94.100.123.72/1161150001-1161200000/1161190201-1161190300/1161190235_6_NEx6.jpeg</a></p><p> </p><p>But why are the new angels, archons, many strange drake species in the book? They shouldn't be there, this is a book for nostalgic monsters right? All classic monsters, MANY classics are missing... Salamanders, Ettercap and even Aboleth...</p><p> </p><p>My perfect monster vault would look like this: All popular monsters from D&D.</p><p> </p><p>Aboleth - Tarrasque - Ankheg - Barghest - Basilisk - Behir - Beholder - Bulette - Bullywug - Carrion Crawler - Catoblepas - Cave Fisher - Centaur - Chimera - Cloaker - Cockatrice - Couatl - Cyclops - Death Knight - Babau - Balor - Glabrezu - Marilith - Nalfeshnee - Vrock - Yochlol - Derro - Barbazu (much like legion devil) - Gelugon - Hamatula (instead of spinagon) - Imp - Malebranche - Osyluth - Pit Fiend - Succubus - Displacer Beast (one with berbalang powers) - Djinn - Doppelganger - Red Dragon - Faerie Dragon - Drider - Drow - Dryad - Duergar - Efreet - Air Elemental - Earth Elemental - FIre Elemental - Water Elemental - Ettercap (vermin lord) - Ettin - Firbolg (covers werebear) - Fomorian - Gargoyle - Banshee - Ghoul - Fire Giant - Frost Giant - Storm Giant - Gibbering Mouther - Githyanki - Gnoll - Bugbear - Goblin - Flesh Golem - Gorgon - Grell - Griffon - Hag (night or annis) - Harpy - Hook Horror - Hellhound - Hydra - Intellect Devourer - Jackalwere - Kenku - Kobold - Kraken - Kuo Toa - Lamia - Lich - Lizardman - Wererat - Werewolf - Manticore - Meazel - Medusa - Mimic - Mind Flayer - Minotaur - Mummy (I kinda like the skirr version, not the humanoid) - Myconid - Naga (dark) - Nightmare - Oblivion Moss - Ogre - Oni - Black Pudding - Gelatinous Cube - Green Slime - Orc - Otyugh - Owlbear - Purple Worm - Quickling - Rakshasa - Remorhaz - Phoenix/Roc - Roper - Rot Grub Swarm - Rust Monster - Sahuagin - Salamander - Satyr - Scarecrow - Shadow - Shambling Mound - Skeleton - Slaad (much like hezrou) - Spectre - Sphinx - Phase Spider - Spriggan - Stirge - Su Monster - Thri Kreen - Treant - Troglodyte (much like grimlock) - Troll - Umber Hulk - Unicorn - Vampire - Wight (with power of boneclaw) - Will o Wisp - Winter Wolf - Worg - Wraith - Wyvern - Xorn - Yeti - Yuan Ti - Zombie</p><p> </p><p>Other monsters NOT from the first edition that still are very popular are:</p><p>Neogi - Nightwalker - Gray Render (much like rampager) - Destrachan - Kyton - Dracolich (frost version) - Astral Stalker (invisible stalker) - Bladeling - Choker (acts like skulk) - Chuul - Clockwork Horror - Bebilith - Krenshar (maybe some hybrid with a howler, because the two creatures are very alike) - Gremlin - Death Giant (much like devourer with the souls) - Rot Harbinger - Swordwing - Greenvise - Steel Predator (magnetic version) - Sorrowsworn - Shield Guardian (my iron golem) - Eidolon (my stone golem) - Boneyard (my bone golem) - Chaos Shard - Evistro - Flameskull - Drakkoth - Helmed Horror - Nerra - Nothic - Spell Weaver</p><p> </p><p>And for the beasts:</p><p>Shadowhunter Bat - Fire Beetle (acts like bombardier beetle) - Dire Boar - Dire Rat (acts like cranium rat) - Dire Tiger - Scytheclaw Drake (acts like bonesnapper) - Feymire Crocodile - Hellstinger Scorpion - Crushgrip Constrictor </p><p> </p><p>And last but not least some popular monsters that didn't appear in 4th edition yet, but who are very popular aswel.</p><p>Zorbo </p><p>Aurumvorax</p><p>Deepspawn</p><p>Crimson Death</p><p>Peryton</p><p>Morkoth</p><p> </p><p>The more good humanoid races won't appear in a monster book, such as elves, eladrin, dwarves and halflings.</p><p> </p><p>Also I hate hobgoblins (too much like orcs and bugbears) and Hill Giants (too much like ogres en ettins), so I left them out on purpose, I don't like 5 dragons aswel, so I only used the red version, Dracolich could use frostbreath of white, Wyvern acts like Green Dragon and Behir much like Blue Dragon, that only leaves the Black Dragon out, maybe putting the more cooler shadow dragon in instead.</p><p>Other famous creatures i'm not a big fan off: </p><p>Tiefing and Cambion (maybe as characters, but not as monsters.)</p><p>Hezrou (too much like slaadi) </p><p>Azer (too much like a small fire giant and Duergar are enough for monstrous dwarves)</p><p>Bodak (nightwalkers create shadows instead)</p><p>Dark Creeper (too much like chokers and kenku in behavior)</p><p>Goristro (better make a demonic version of the minotaur)</p><p>Dragonborn (nice for character, but not for monster really, I prefer only Drakkoth for monster)</p><p>Drakes (most of them suck, only Faerie Dragon and Scytheclaw are somewhat cool, change the bloodseeker model into a dimetrodon and maybe he's cool to)</p><p>Stone Golem and Iron Golem (I prefer to use Shield Guardian and Eidolon instead, much cooler and otherwise too much alike)</p><p>Galeb Duhr (I give its powers to the Gargoyle and Eidolon)</p><p>Stone Giant (never cared for them)</p><p>Githzerai (one gith is enough, this one is nice for characters, but not for monster)</p><p>Grick (bleh, ugly thing)</p><p>Hippogriff (Griffon is enough, really)</p><p>Grimlock (Most boring thing ever, too much in acting like Troglodyte)</p><p>Homunculus (nice for another kind of manual, not monster manual)</p><p>Shadow Mastiff (Shadows should be able to take any form they desire, also from a dog, so unneccairy)</p><p>Marut (cool for some, but not really for this manual)</p><p>Ochre Jelly (too much acts like Green Slime, three slimes are enough)</p><p>Shadar-Kai (I think they are much like vampires should act.)</p><p>Shifter (Everybody could have a baby, this doesn't make sense, maybe for character)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>P.S yes i'm kinda bored so that's why its kinda long, sorry to bother you with this, I just like typing when i'm bored!</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Metalmaster, post: 5378603, member: 87714"] All by all i'm cool with the Monster Vault, I love the tokens (eventho I love those made by myself more, as I would never use boring monsters like Bloodseekerdrake or guard drake) and I love the full length story of the monsters in the book! These I made myself, I have 200 different monsters as of now, mostly because I only want perfect pictures for them, some (like cave fisher) are impossible at this moment too bad... [URL]http://94.100.121.65/1161150001-1161200000/1161189001-1161189100/1161189010_6_BOxL.jpeg[/URL] [URL]http://94.100.123.172/1161150001-1161200000/1161189101-1161189200/1161189154_6_0Hf3.jpeg[/URL] [URL]http://94.100.124.18/1161150001-1161200000/1161189201-1161189300/1161189292_6_NDMD.jpeg[/URL] [URL]http://94.100.121.207/1161150001-1161200000/1161189401-1161189500/1161189414_6_oSoB.jpeg[/URL] [URL]http://94.100.124.175/1161150001-1161200000/1161189501-1161189600/1161189568_6_FnrH.jpeg[/URL] [URL]http://94.100.121.207/1161150001-1161200000/1161189701-1161189800/1161189701_6_TInw.jpeg[/URL] [URL]http://94.100.118.104/1161150001-1161200000/1161189801-1161189900/1161189845_6_PwKl.jpeg[/URL] [URL]http://94.100.115.198/1161150001-1161200000/1161189901-1161190000/1161189992_6_BIWX.jpeg[/URL] [URL]http://94.100.122.170/1161150001-1161200000/1161190101-1161190200/1161190114_6_DPdw.jpeg[/URL] [URL]http://94.100.123.72/1161150001-1161200000/1161190201-1161190300/1161190235_6_NEx6.jpeg[/URL] But why are the new angels, archons, many strange drake species in the book? They shouldn't be there, this is a book for nostalgic monsters right? All classic monsters, MANY classics are missing... Salamanders, Ettercap and even Aboleth... My perfect monster vault would look like this: All popular monsters from D&D. Aboleth - Tarrasque - Ankheg - Barghest - Basilisk - Behir - Beholder - Bulette - Bullywug - Carrion Crawler - Catoblepas - Cave Fisher - Centaur - Chimera - Cloaker - Cockatrice - Couatl - Cyclops - Death Knight - Babau - Balor - Glabrezu - Marilith - Nalfeshnee - Vrock - Yochlol - Derro - Barbazu (much like legion devil) - Gelugon - Hamatula (instead of spinagon) - Imp - Malebranche - Osyluth - Pit Fiend - Succubus - Displacer Beast (one with berbalang powers) - Djinn - Doppelganger - Red Dragon - Faerie Dragon - Drider - Drow - Dryad - Duergar - Efreet - Air Elemental - Earth Elemental - FIre Elemental - Water Elemental - Ettercap (vermin lord) - Ettin - Firbolg (covers werebear) - Fomorian - Gargoyle - Banshee - Ghoul - Fire Giant - Frost Giant - Storm Giant - Gibbering Mouther - Githyanki - Gnoll - Bugbear - Goblin - Flesh Golem - Gorgon - Grell - Griffon - Hag (night or annis) - Harpy - Hook Horror - Hellhound - Hydra - Intellect Devourer - Jackalwere - Kenku - Kobold - Kraken - Kuo Toa - Lamia - Lich - Lizardman - Wererat - Werewolf - Manticore - Meazel - Medusa - Mimic - Mind Flayer - Minotaur - Mummy (I kinda like the skirr version, not the humanoid) - Myconid - Naga (dark) - Nightmare - Oblivion Moss - Ogre - Oni - Black Pudding - Gelatinous Cube - Green Slime - Orc - Otyugh - Owlbear - Purple Worm - Quickling - Rakshasa - Remorhaz - Phoenix/Roc - Roper - Rot Grub Swarm - Rust Monster - Sahuagin - Salamander - Satyr - Scarecrow - Shadow - Shambling Mound - Skeleton - Slaad (much like hezrou) - Spectre - Sphinx - Phase Spider - Spriggan - Stirge - Su Monster - Thri Kreen - Treant - Troglodyte (much like grimlock) - Troll - Umber Hulk - Unicorn - Vampire - Wight (with power of boneclaw) - Will o Wisp - Winter Wolf - Worg - Wraith - Wyvern - Xorn - Yeti - Yuan Ti - Zombie Other monsters NOT from the first edition that still are very popular are: Neogi - Nightwalker - Gray Render (much like rampager) - Destrachan - Kyton - Dracolich (frost version) - Astral Stalker (invisible stalker) - Bladeling - Choker (acts like skulk) - Chuul - Clockwork Horror - Bebilith - Krenshar (maybe some hybrid with a howler, because the two creatures are very alike) - Gremlin - Death Giant (much like devourer with the souls) - Rot Harbinger - Swordwing - Greenvise - Steel Predator (magnetic version) - Sorrowsworn - Shield Guardian (my iron golem) - Eidolon (my stone golem) - Boneyard (my bone golem) - Chaos Shard - Evistro - Flameskull - Drakkoth - Helmed Horror - Nerra - Nothic - Spell Weaver And for the beasts: Shadowhunter Bat - Fire Beetle (acts like bombardier beetle) - Dire Boar - Dire Rat (acts like cranium rat) - Dire Tiger - Scytheclaw Drake (acts like bonesnapper) - Feymire Crocodile - Hellstinger Scorpion - Crushgrip Constrictor And last but not least some popular monsters that didn't appear in 4th edition yet, but who are very popular aswel. Zorbo Aurumvorax Deepspawn Crimson Death Peryton Morkoth The more good humanoid races won't appear in a monster book, such as elves, eladrin, dwarves and halflings. Also I hate hobgoblins (too much like orcs and bugbears) and Hill Giants (too much like ogres en ettins), so I left them out on purpose, I don't like 5 dragons aswel, so I only used the red version, Dracolich could use frostbreath of white, Wyvern acts like Green Dragon and Behir much like Blue Dragon, that only leaves the Black Dragon out, maybe putting the more cooler shadow dragon in instead. Other famous creatures i'm not a big fan off: Tiefing and Cambion (maybe as characters, but not as monsters.) Hezrou (too much like slaadi) Azer (too much like a small fire giant and Duergar are enough for monstrous dwarves) Bodak (nightwalkers create shadows instead) Dark Creeper (too much like chokers and kenku in behavior) Goristro (better make a demonic version of the minotaur) Dragonborn (nice for character, but not for monster really, I prefer only Drakkoth for monster) Drakes (most of them suck, only Faerie Dragon and Scytheclaw are somewhat cool, change the bloodseeker model into a dimetrodon and maybe he's cool to) Stone Golem and Iron Golem (I prefer to use Shield Guardian and Eidolon instead, much cooler and otherwise too much alike) Galeb Duhr (I give its powers to the Gargoyle and Eidolon) Stone Giant (never cared for them) Githzerai (one gith is enough, this one is nice for characters, but not for monster) Grick (bleh, ugly thing) Hippogriff (Griffon is enough, really) Grimlock (Most boring thing ever, too much in acting like Troglodyte) Homunculus (nice for another kind of manual, not monster manual) Shadow Mastiff (Shadows should be able to take any form they desire, also from a dog, so unneccairy) Marut (cool for some, but not really for this manual) Ochre Jelly (too much acts like Green Slime, three slimes are enough) Shadar-Kai (I think they are much like vampires should act.) Shifter (Everybody could have a baby, this doesn't make sense, maybe for character) P.S yes i'm kinda bored so that's why its kinda long, sorry to bother you with this, I just like typing when i'm bored! [/QUOTE]
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