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<blockquote data-quote="ProfessorCirno" data-source="post: 5396589" data-attributes="member: 65637">I honestly see it the opposite.&nbsp; I'm so glad I can make a character without having to make a build.I can think of an iconic baddie and a few abilities he'd have and smash it all together and, whammo, done.&nbsp; Rather then just getting int he way, the mechanics help.Maybe I just have awesome miracle players, but I've never once heard &quot;Hey now, that wizard shouldn't have that power or be able to have that kind of HP.&quot;&nbsp; I have heard &quot;Oh man, he's casting that spell again that summons one of the dead adventurers back to life to fight us!&nbsp; Watch out!&quot;If anything, I saw the problem far more in 3.x, where the rules were more of a straightjacket demanding I follow them.&nbsp; Want to make a guy who casts spell?&nbsp; Here are the exceedingly small number of ways you can do it.&nbsp; What's that ability you want?&nbsp; Sorry, that's a level 7 spell, you can't do that unless you have a whole goddamn spellbook to go with it.&nbsp; You want a powerful tyrant and champion and master of physical strength?&nbsp; Ok, here's the long, long, long list of magical items he needs.At that point, you aren't making a character.&nbsp; You're making a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet.By seperating the PC rules from non-PC rules, my options are huge.&nbsp; Hell, I can actually make NPCs that do nothing but give the party a few small buffs or assistance in combat - in 3.5 I'd have to dig out esoteric class abilities or functions or spells.Well, ok, I'm lying - I more or less just &quot;cheated' every time I made a 3.5 NPC.&nbsp; Like, every time.&nbsp; But hey, now the system works the way I want it to, and I don't have to fight it.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="ProfessorCirno, post: 5396589, member: 65637"] I honestly see it the opposite. I'm so glad I can make a [i]character[/i] without having to make a [i]build[/i]. I can think of an iconic baddie and a few abilities he'd have and smash it all together and, whammo, done. Rather then just getting int he way, the mechanics help. Maybe I just have awesome miracle players, but I've never once heard "Hey now, that wizard shouldn't have that power or be able to have that kind of HP." I have heard "Oh man, he's casting that spell again that summons one of the dead adventurers back to life to fight us! Watch out!" If anything, I saw the problem far more in 3.x, where the rules were more of a straightjacket demanding I follow them. Want to make a guy who casts spell? Here are the exceedingly small number of ways you can do it. What's that ability you want? Sorry, that's a level 7 spell, you can't do that unless you have a whole goddamn spellbook to go with it. You want a powerful tyrant and champion and master of physical strength? Ok, here's the long, long, [i]long[/i] list of magical items he needs. At that point, you aren't making a character. You're making a Microsoft Excel spreadsheet. By seperating the PC rules from non-PC rules, my options are [i]huge[/i]. Hell, I can actually make NPCs that do nothing but give the party a few small buffs or assistance in combat - in 3.5 I'd have to dig out esoteric class abilities or functions or spells. Well, ok, I'm lying - I more or less just "cheated' every time I made a 3.5 NPC. Like, [b]every[/b] time. But hey, now the system works the way I want it to, and I don't have to fight it. [/QUOTE]

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