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<blockquote data-quote="phloog" data-source="post: 5397375" data-attributes="member: 59219"><p>I am still preparing to run my first foray into 4E (a 4A?)...and I'm finding that my forum search skills are lousy. I would think this is covered before, but here goes:</p><p> </p><p>Even monsters only get a Standard/Move/Minor set of actions, and possibly action points and Free actions, right?</p><p> </p><p>I think that's true, but then some monster entries confuse me...looking at the Young Red Dragon in the first monster manual, I see that there is a BITE entry and a CLAW entry (and some others)...</p><p> </p><p>The BITE is a standard action, and At-Will, has Reach 2, is +14vsAC, and does 2d6+6, then an additional 2d6 fire.</p><p> </p><p>The CLAW is a standard action, and At-Will has Reach 2, is +14vsAC, and does 2d6+6 only...no fire damage.</p><p> </p><p>So if they only get standard/move/minor, why would an intelligent dragon ever use up their standard action on the claw?</p><p> </p><p>There is a DOUBLE claw that is two claw attacks, but I get why that one's there since it can't be used as a Basic Melee, but the first two can.</p><p> </p><p>I haven't seen any rule that says you can't use the same At-Will twice (once as a standard and then once with an action point), but maybe that's it.</p><p> </p><p>Otherwise it seems like it's all just based in flavor (cooler to have some claw attacks and some bites), but if that's the case I think it's a slightly flawed design because it makes the rational/sensible conflict with the coolness.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="phloog, post: 5397375, member: 59219"] I am still preparing to run my first foray into 4E (a 4A?)...and I'm finding that my forum search skills are lousy. I would think this is covered before, but here goes: Even monsters only get a Standard/Move/Minor set of actions, and possibly action points and Free actions, right? I think that's true, but then some monster entries confuse me...looking at the Young Red Dragon in the first monster manual, I see that there is a BITE entry and a CLAW entry (and some others)... The BITE is a standard action, and At-Will, has Reach 2, is +14vsAC, and does 2d6+6, then an additional 2d6 fire. The CLAW is a standard action, and At-Will has Reach 2, is +14vsAC, and does 2d6+6 only...no fire damage. So if they only get standard/move/minor, why would an intelligent dragon ever use up their standard action on the claw? There is a DOUBLE claw that is two claw attacks, but I get why that one's there since it can't be used as a Basic Melee, but the first two can. I haven't seen any rule that says you can't use the same At-Will twice (once as a standard and then once with an action point), but maybe that's it. Otherwise it seems like it's all just based in flavor (cooler to have some claw attacks and some bites), but if that's the case I think it's a slightly flawed design because it makes the rational/sensible conflict with the coolness. [/QUOTE]
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