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Message: <blockquote data-quote="FormerlyHemlock" data-source="post: 6594709" data-attributes="member: 6787650">We've mostly been talking about high CR dragons up until now (adult reds have been mentioned more than once), but one the one hand, that does not necessarily imply high-level PCs fighting it; on the other hand, even high-level PCs don't necessarily do more than 34 points of damage in a single hit--multiple attacks are more common than large single attacks--and an adult red taking 34 points of damage fails Concentration only on a 1; on the gripping hand, even if he loses Concentration on Expeditious Retreat all it costs him is a single spell slot and a bonus action (which he wasn't doing anything with anyway), if he even bothers to recast it. As I said before, if he's already closed with the party, Expeditious Retreat has already done its job, and maybe he'd rather spend the spell slot on Shield.Well, clearly you believe that. I happen to think that there's a big difference for an adult red dragon taking 79 points of damage from the level 17 Sharpshooter and Sorlock instead of 143 points of damage, and being able to Misty Step through the Wall of Force or Forcecube with which the wizard attempted to trap it. To me, that isn't negligible. YMMV though. At this point clearly I'm not going to say anything that hasn't been said before.</blockquote>