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<blockquote data-quote="Ath-kethin" data-source="post: 8415482" data-attributes="member: 6798775"><p>There are actually over 20 steps in the DMG,, especially when calculating the impact for special features. But people look at the first chart, pull stuff off it, and get internet famous complaining about how the numbers don't match up to the creatures actual impact in combat.</p><p></p><p>I had a fun time with one guy on Twitter when I pointed out that the monster he was complaining about being overpowered for its CR actually worked out perfectly if you flow all the steps. His only defense was that "many people have proved" the math is wrong.</p><p></p><p>I asked how HIS calculations came up, when he flowed the steps himself, and he blocked me.</p><p></p><p>C'est la vie.</p><p></p><p>Update: he seems to have unblocked me now, but the point still stands.</p><p></p><p>I don't think that any system can have its encounter match accurately broken down to a single table. Not one with a worthwhile outcome anyway.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ath-kethin, post: 8415482, member: 6798775"] There are actually over 20 steps in the DMG,, especially when calculating the impact for special features. But people look at the first chart, pull stuff off it, and get internet famous complaining about how the numbers don't match up to the creatures actual impact in combat. I had a fun time with one guy on Twitter when I pointed out that the monster he was complaining about being overpowered for its CR actually worked out perfectly if you flow all the steps. His only defense was that "many people have proved" the math is wrong. I asked how HIS calculations came up, when he flowed the steps himself, and he blocked me. C'est la vie. Update: he seems to have unblocked me now, but the point still stands. I don't think that any system can have its encounter match accurately broken down to a single table. Not one with a worthwhile outcome anyway. [/QUOTE]
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