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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Gunslinger" data-source="post: 468597" data-attributes="member: 8269"><p>Is there any pattern used to determining the BaB of monstors?  I ask because I am going to run an adventure out of Dragon(my first time DMing) with a "Giant Ogre(it isn't actually giant sized, it's 14ft tall, that's just what its called)" at the end.  This thing has 5 HD, 2 attacks(+12/+7), and does 2d6+6 as written (but I don't see how a large creature can wield a huge greatclub 1 handed, so unless I'm wrong it should actually be 2d6+9).  It has a strenght of 23 and weapon focus, and 80 hit points.  I know if it was a PC it shouldn't have 2 attacks with only 5 hit dice.  This monster was given a CR rating of 5, but that seems a tad bit wrong. 4d6+18 damage per round seems like a whole lot for a CR5 monster.  What CR should this thing actually be, and should it have 2 attacks?</p></blockquote><p></p>