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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shemeska" data-source="post: 6130588" data-attributes="member: 11697">It's in the 3.5 DMG as well in pretty decent abbreviated fashion. You can completely ignore it or any other cosmology presented in the core, but to an extent, some cosmology has to be there in bare-bones format to give some sort of context to planar monsters. You can prefer the 4e World Axis certainly, that's your choice which is just as valid as mine, but the Great Wheel has a lot of history as a D&D trope so at least to me if you're going to present a model, that's the one to go with. It has been part of the core game since AD&D. Space considerations are probably going to preclude giving multiple model cosmologies, but it's probably important to note explicitly that you can and perhaps should tailor cosmology to fit your own games rather than feel bound to a specific one.A MotP could fully flesh out one model and present multiple others as well as provide tools to creating them. That's how I'd handle it.The mercenary aspect isn't by any means all that the 'loths have going for them, as many people in this thread have elaborated upon it, both with material that has been presented about the 'loths in print before, and elaborations of their own. They existed before the Blood War, and even after the Blood War was created, it was stated pretty bluntly that the Blood War was a means to an end, or even just treading water on their part, not their major focus or their ultimate goal. I think that they're just as useful and occupy a thematic niche of their own alongside demons and devils, you don't have to agree with me, but a decent number of people seem to think so.</blockquote>

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