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<blockquote data-quote="Hussar" data-source="post: 6132037" data-attributes="member: 22779"><p>Looking at the Wandering Monsters, Not Just a Shaggy Ogre article, I notice exactly what I'm talking about.</p><p> [MENTION=2067]Kamikaze Midget[/MENTION] - in the article, look at James Wyatt's final write up of the minotaur:</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Note, this write up counters every single established version of a minotaur. Minotaurs in D&D have NEVER looked like this in any edition or in any setting. This actually invalidates the minotaur of every single edition.</p><p></p><p>But, apparently that's perfectly acceptable. It's okay that this 5e minotaur looks nothing like any previous version of a minotaur, other than physically. </p><p></p><p>But, I want to change a single sentence of Planescape and you'll argue with me for 20 pages? And I'm being unreasonable? I'm the one that wants to "completely rewrite" a monster for changing a single line that only appears in a single setting? And that's unacceptable. But, completely invalidating every single version of a minotaur ever published for any edition is perfectly fine.</p><p></p><p>So, tell me again how this is not protecting PS lore for PS lore's sake. If you have such a huge issue with maintaining canon, why is it perfectly acceptable to have a completely new minotaur, but, it's not acceptable to even discuss the idea of a god serving yugoloth?</p><p></p><p>Can you not see how this looks from the outside? You have no problems completely ignoring canon for stuff outside of Planescape, even to the point of holding it up as an example of "doing it right". But, any alteration to Planescape canon, regardless of how insignificant (and yes, adding a single sentence to yugoloths is a pretty minor change) is viewed as heretical and must never be allowed to happen.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hussar, post: 6132037, member: 22779"] Looking at the Wandering Monsters, Not Just a Shaggy Ogre article, I notice exactly what I'm talking about. [MENTION=2067]Kamikaze Midget[/MENTION] - in the article, look at James Wyatt's final write up of the minotaur: Note, this write up counters every single established version of a minotaur. Minotaurs in D&D have NEVER looked like this in any edition or in any setting. This actually invalidates the minotaur of every single edition. But, apparently that's perfectly acceptable. It's okay that this 5e minotaur looks nothing like any previous version of a minotaur, other than physically. But, I want to change a single sentence of Planescape and you'll argue with me for 20 pages? And I'm being unreasonable? I'm the one that wants to "completely rewrite" a monster for changing a single line that only appears in a single setting? And that's unacceptable. But, completely invalidating every single version of a minotaur ever published for any edition is perfectly fine. So, tell me again how this is not protecting PS lore for PS lore's sake. If you have such a huge issue with maintaining canon, why is it perfectly acceptable to have a completely new minotaur, but, it's not acceptable to even discuss the idea of a god serving yugoloth? Can you not see how this looks from the outside? You have no problems completely ignoring canon for stuff outside of Planescape, even to the point of holding it up as an example of "doing it right". But, any alteration to Planescape canon, regardless of how insignificant (and yes, adding a single sentence to yugoloths is a pretty minor change) is viewed as heretical and must never be allowed to happen. [/QUOTE]
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