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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6132210" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>[MENTION=2039]RichGreen[/MENTION] 's link to the follow up to that will help you parse that, too: it makes room for all the minotaur types, without invalidating any of them.</p><p></p><p>And yeah, I'm going to defend the existing merits of a thing. Minotaurs, too -- I'm likely on record here as thinking Wyatt's "everything is a Baphomet cultist" approach is narmed. You seem to believe this is about the setting, but it's more about the fact that the existing lore is well and good and fine. It doesn't need to be changed. It doesn't need to be invalidated any more than the minotaur lore needs to be invalidated, any more than kender need to be invalidated. Yugoloth lore as it exists is <em>pretty dang good lore</em>. If you could stop drinking the haterade, you might be able to see that. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> And if you can't, that's fine, but the least you could do is leave it alone. I can't stop drinking the kender haterade, but I'm not about to pretend that this means that kender should be written out of the game. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>It isn't acceptable to have a minotaur that invalidates other minotaurs. It's not acceptable to demand that the core be changed for no reason. You're not advocating for the original version of these creatures (sans the PS elaboration), you're advocating for a brand new version that invalidates an old version. </p><p></p><p>It's like: here's a kid playing with some play-doh, having a good time. Then you come along and say: "Hey. That play-doh is dumb. I want to play with action figures! It's now against the rules to play with dumb play-doh in this room, and if you want to play with that dumb stuff you have to do it in the coat closet." How about, instead, that kid gets to keep doing what that kid has fun doing, and get to do what you have fun doing, and you learn to play next to each other, to accept human diversity, and even to learn from each other when she shows you how you can copy a newspaper and stretch it out and you show her the truck that fires 10 missiles at once.</p><p></p><p>Only, when I advocate for everyone being able to play in the same room, you cry about favoritism. "You just love play-doh, you won't let me put them in the closet, but you think it's okay to put the people who are reading books in the closet because you just love play-doh and think it's the best and that we should all have to play in the same room as people who play with dumb play-doh."</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 6132210, member: 2067"] [MENTION=2039]RichGreen[/MENTION] 's link to the follow up to that will help you parse that, too: it makes room for all the minotaur types, without invalidating any of them. And yeah, I'm going to defend the existing merits of a thing. Minotaurs, too -- I'm likely on record here as thinking Wyatt's "everything is a Baphomet cultist" approach is narmed. You seem to believe this is about the setting, but it's more about the fact that the existing lore is well and good and fine. It doesn't need to be changed. It doesn't need to be invalidated any more than the minotaur lore needs to be invalidated, any more than kender need to be invalidated. Yugoloth lore as it exists is [i]pretty dang good lore[/I]. If you could stop drinking the haterade, you might be able to see that. ;) And if you can't, that's fine, but the least you could do is leave it alone. I can't stop drinking the kender haterade, but I'm not about to pretend that this means that kender should be written out of the game. It isn't acceptable to have a minotaur that invalidates other minotaurs. It's not acceptable to demand that the core be changed for no reason. You're not advocating for the original version of these creatures (sans the PS elaboration), you're advocating for a brand new version that invalidates an old version. It's like: here's a kid playing with some play-doh, having a good time. Then you come along and say: "Hey. That play-doh is dumb. I want to play with action figures! It's now against the rules to play with dumb play-doh in this room, and if you want to play with that dumb stuff you have to do it in the coat closet." How about, instead, that kid gets to keep doing what that kid has fun doing, and get to do what you have fun doing, and you learn to play next to each other, to accept human diversity, and even to learn from each other when she shows you how you can copy a newspaper and stretch it out and you show her the truck that fires 10 missiles at once. Only, when I advocate for everyone being able to play in the same room, you cry about favoritism. "You just love play-doh, you won't let me put them in the closet, but you think it's okay to put the people who are reading books in the closet because you just love play-doh and think it's the best and that we should all have to play in the same room as people who play with dumb play-doh." [/QUOTE]
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