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Message: <blockquote data-quote="steeldragons" data-source="post: 6132742" data-attributes="member: 92511">That may be so for the PS fans...but I don't think that's the whole/everyone's reason [and being a human on the internet like to believe that I'm not alone in that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />].Though, it is...and I wouldn't sully Nightcrawler's good name by calling them "bamf elves." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />Though, they are and it is.See above...not to mention going completely against elf lore for the 30 years prior.We'll keep this in mind...continue...Except, what it seems everyone wants to fight Hussar about (for however many pages this thread's on now as opposed to the other 20-something pages), and not recognize, is that his point IS about information being altered or rejected due to one particular setting. And the answer's seem to be "no, it's not about PS saying things must be X in core"...when clearly, PS [and its advocates] is saying "things must be X in core." Whether that setting is Planescape or Krynn or Ravenloft or whatever...this discussion, specifically, involves Planescape lore infiltrating the core assumptions of the game...when Krynn assumptions don't (thank gods)...Eberron assumptions don't (thank gods)...Dark Sun assumptions don't (thank gods)...but Planescape ones, somehow, should be...I just don't see how/where all the disagreement is from. No...they just invalidate the entire history of the game regarding "high elves" up to their introduction. But, somehow, that doesn't count as invalidating lore..very basic core lore? So eladrin [as "high elves"] are "ok" then...right.<img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f621.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":mad:" title="Mad    :mad:"  data-smilie="4"data-shortname=":mad:" /></blockquote>

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