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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Alzrius" data-source="post: 6132989" data-attributes="member: 8461">To be fair, that wouldn't have happened if you hadn't started an entire thread expressing your disdain for that setting and the people who like it. In that case, the internet was quite smart.It's worth noting that we were having that discussion before, prior to a sudden off-topic tilt wherein there was a lot of ranting about how people who wanted continuity to be kept were "shooting down" the rest of the discussion. Luckily that's all ended now.As an affirmative counterargument, why have it be filled by the yugoloths specifically, instead of an all-new race?Reading some Planescape books might help.The first question presupposes that any of this will make it to the Core in the first place, as well as the idea that such "baggage" is a bad thing. The second question is entirely one of personal opinion....looks like I spoke too soon when I said the mischaracterizations were at an end.For someone who doesn't care, you seem to care quite a bit since you started a whole thread based on vitriol for the idea. You've also once again failed to recognize that existing lore is a perfectly valid point of consideration in the question of the merits vs. the faults of an idea.No one has been "sent to the closet" and no one has been "forced to maintain" anything in their game. Your continued assertions of these baseless claims is what derailed this topic to begin with, making it odd that you claim to be glad that said derailing is over.Likewise, there has been no "failure" to gain traction for the lore and ideas of Planescape; I'll refer you again to your own poll.If your idea of "traction" is how many times something has been reprinted, I suppose I could see that. However, it's again a disingenuous take on the issue - the idea of yugoloths as hating deities only came about early-midway through Planescape's life, which means that it had comparatively little time to appear in non-Planescape sources, particularly since it would only have a chance to appear in such sources when 1) those sources included yugoloths, and 2) focused on them enough to make adding that bit of lore relevant.To put it another way, the merit of an idea of not based on its ubiquity.It's also never an inherently lacking reason; it has the potential to be either virtue or vice, as I noted above.</blockquote>

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