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Message: <blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 6135913" data-attributes="member: 2067">It's not a matter of "LE and CE can't" do anything. It's a matter of "Demons and Devils have their own plots going on...and part of the hook of yugoloths is that they are interested in them both.Law and Chaos are opposed metaphysical forces. Demons and devils have competing agendas. There's no reason to assume that these differences are meaningless. Sure, that can happen. DL was big on the Good vs. Evil plotline, so it reduced the variation in Evil to provide a solid antagonist. I wouldn't pretend that we can expect that this is always the way demons and devils in all D&D games would act, though. Devils can't rule a world the demons burn to the ground, and demons can't burn a world the devils lock away. Explicitly, the original yugoloths could be found helping along either team, implying that this is something that is worthy of note about them, ie: something that cannot be expected of just any creature. Antagonists don't have to work together just 'cuz they all shoot red lasers. You're being WAY to monolithic, here. It's not so binary a choice. There's plenty of reasons demons and devils can't always be assumed to work together. You could have a scenario in which they did if you want -- nothing prohibits it. Even with the Blood War, you can do that (hell, one of the "yugoloth consipiracy" ideas is that they want to keep the Blood War going because it makes both demons and devils stronger for the upcoming War Against Good!). But equally nothing assumes it. No bit of the rulebooks says "Demons and devils always work together."Going with an inclusive model of the game, you can say sometimes they grudgingly work together, and sometimes they break out into vicious all-out war. And then the DL fans run with one to its logical conclusion, and the PS fans who love the Blood War run to the other. At any given table, you may ping anywhere on the continuum.</blockquote>

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