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Message: <blockquote data-quote="daemonslye" data-source="post: 280910" data-attributes="member: 6309">Here is a question I thought had a simple answer; However, I cannot find a clear answer in the rules:My current DM's supposition: "Primary weapons are considered a single attack."  Referring to a monster's primary natural weapons and the ability to use all primary weapons without a full-round action.Now, I thought the MM was clear: - > ------------------------------------------- > MMp7: ATTACKS- > Natural Weapons: <blather about attack- > bonuses for natural weapons>- > "...All of the foregoing assumes that the- > creature makes a full attack (see Attack- > Actions, page 122 in the Players Handbook)- > and employs its natural weapons. If a creature- > instead chooses the attack option (and thus- > makes only a single attack), it uses its- > primary attack bonus."- > ------------------------------------------- > PHp122: ATTACK ACTIONS- > Attack- > "The attack action is a standard action. You- > can move and then make a single attack, or- > attack and then move."- > ------------------------------------------However, what if we look at the description of the Hydra:- > ------------------------------------------- > MMp122: COMBAT- > "Hydras attack with all of their heads at no penalty- >  even if they move or charge during a round."- > ------------------------------------------Yikes.  So that throws the "single attack" question intodispute.  In addition, though AOOs are not mentioned these could be construed to fall under the same rule(couple that with reach and I am running the other wayfrom anything hydra or retriever like).Thanks for helping clear up this issue.~DDMs Supposition (after I asked him to look into the rules):- "I spent more time reading and thinking through this and came - to the same conclusion.  Primary weapons are considered a - single attack. This is even reflected in the MM stats by the - fact that secondary weapons are made at a -5.  In other - words, for natural weapons, the attack bonuses would be 0/-5 - (no including size and strength bonuses) such that all - primary weapons are used in a single attack at +0, and - secondary weapon attacks are made at -5. This compares to - "manufactured weapons" for a barbarian with say +6/+1 in - which two attacks (being made *in sequence*) could be made - only if the full attack option is taken."</blockquote>

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