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<blockquote data-quote="I'm A Banana" data-source="post: 5372922" data-attributes="member: 2067"><p>I think the older MM philosophy of "interesting thing to encounter" helped engender a lot of these weirder things. They're not there to fight, per se, they're there to <em>encounter</em>. And in that respect, a talking bridge is kind of cool. Or, in 3e, also there for PC's to use (tojanidas were a summon, forex). </p><p></p><p>4e has abandoned those ideas in favor of a "kill everything you see" approach. Which is one way of doing it. </p><p></p><p>But it's mixed. Even if the MM is only filled with things you're going to stab with swords like 4e is, there's always going to be some things that just aren't very inspiring to stab with swords.</p><p></p><p>For example, you could have a failure of motive (<em>evil monster is evil and also hates puppies</em> is not going to give someone a reason to use the critter), a failure of meaning (<em>Wait, Asmodeus uses angels? I thought he was the master of devils? Aren't angels and devils enemies?</em> might cause you just to avoid the critter altogether), or a failure of milieu (<em>I don't like Lovecraftianisms in my High Fantasy!</em> might lead you to dodge all the tentacled delight that D&D has to offer). </p><p></p><p>But it's all pretty subjective.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="I'm A Banana, post: 5372922, member: 2067"] I think the older MM philosophy of "interesting thing to encounter" helped engender a lot of these weirder things. They're not there to fight, per se, they're there to [I]encounter[/I]. And in that respect, a talking bridge is kind of cool. Or, in 3e, also there for PC's to use (tojanidas were a summon, forex). 4e has abandoned those ideas in favor of a "kill everything you see" approach. Which is one way of doing it. But it's mixed. Even if the MM is only filled with things you're going to stab with swords like 4e is, there's always going to be some things that just aren't very inspiring to stab with swords. For example, you could have a failure of motive ([I]evil monster is evil and also hates puppies[/I] is not going to give someone a reason to use the critter), a failure of meaning ([I]Wait, Asmodeus uses angels? I thought he was the master of devils? Aren't angels and devils enemies?[/I] might cause you just to avoid the critter altogether), or a failure of milieu ([I]I don't like Lovecraftianisms in my High Fantasy![/I] might lead you to dodge all the tentacled delight that D&D has to offer). But it's all pretty subjective. [/QUOTE]
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