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<blockquote data-quote="Metalmaster" data-source="post: 5379408" data-attributes="member: 87714"><p>Haha cool topic Jester <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p> </p><p>I only mention my hated monsters from the 4E monster manuals, to keep it shorter.</p><p> </p><p>I love many many monsters, but in every monstermanual there is also a shitload of <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> and things I rather see dumped.</p><p> </p><p>MM1:</p><p>- Tangler Beetle (there are spiders, no need for silk shooting beetles)</p><p>- Cambion (I never liked halfbloods)</p><p>- Spinagon (where is hamatula?)</p><p>- Dragonspawn (all of them, so uninspired)</p><p>- Drake (all of them, except for rage drake)</p><p>- Elemental (I prefer the normal elementals, all of these stupid ones suck)</p><p>- Hill Giant (too much like ogre and ettin, nothing special)</p><p>- Githzerai (one gith species is enough)</p><p>- Hobgoblin (I hate them so much, don't understand that everybody likes them)</p><p>- Stone Golem (I prefer Eidolon)</p><p>- Grick (ugly stupid thing, mistake to put it into the first MM)</p><p>- Hippogriff (only griffon please, this is a joke, why not put in a elephantgriff aswel?)</p><p>- Grimlock (Troglodyte is much better for a blind subterrean creature)</p><p>- Homunculus (all of them, not monsters, should be in other manual)</p><p>- Horse (all of them, at least the non monster horses)</p><p>- Humans (this ain't no monsters, so a waste of space in a monster manual)</p><p>- Magma Beasts (all but Magma Hurler, boring)</p><p>- Panther (displacer beast is already a panther)</p><p>- Giant Rat (why dire rat AND Giant rat? Why not cranium rats or rylkars?)</p><p>- Shifter (boring, lycanthropes are enough, and I hate halfblood <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</p><p>- Tiefling (I hate halfblood <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />, its preverse)</p><p>- Dire Wolf (worg is much the same)</p><p> </p><p>MM2:</p><p>- Abyssal Eviscerator (what was his name again? Oh uninspired bunch of <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</p><p>- Bloodseep Demon (another stupid demon)</p><p>- Gnaw Demon (ANOTHER ONE!)</p><p>- Needle Demon (ARGHHHH!!)</p><p>- Runespiral Demon (faints)</p><p>- Deva (I hate perverse creatures from dates with monsters and humans)</p><p>- Devil (all of them except for Erinyes) (what a worthless bunch of devils in this book!)</p><p>- Elemental (all of them, except for Dust Devil and Mudman)</p><p>- Fell Taint (his power is cool, but could be given to a feyr or something more famous)</p><p>- Fey Lingerer (undead eladrin... well why not make everything undead?)</p><p>- Ghost Legionnaire (just don't care for this thing)</p><p>- Iron Golem (too much like shield guardian)</p><p>- Half-Elf (this must be the most stupid monster ever, and it wastes 2 freaking pages!)</p><p>- Half-Orc (same as half-elf <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</p><p>- Another <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> load of Homunculus</p><p>- Another <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> load of humans</p><p>- Weretiger (yes why not make every animal into a werething? Weretiger looks too much like Rakshasa anyway)</p><p>- Marut (I don't hate them, but the 2 in the first MM were enough, really)</p><p>- Gray ooze (Serious dump that <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />)</p><p>- Retriever (give me bebilith over this machine anyday)</p><p>- More shadar-kai... the ones in the mm1 were enough.</p><p>- Shark (why not megalodon or something more fresh and original?)</p><p>- Slaughterstone Construct (Very uninspired and boring, I rather saw Clockwork horrors back in this manual)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>MM3: </p><p>- Ape (what is this manual called again? The manual of apes? I'm fine with girallon, yeti and su monsters, but cut these apes)</p><p>- Another <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> load of beholders... really 2 manuals with these cool things is enough, I like beholders, but not these.</p><p>- Bleh another load of halfbreed cambion...</p><p>- Rage Devil</p><p>- Slime Devil</p><p>- Vizier Devil</p><p>- Dread Warrior (did this thing really need 2 pages? they are just skeletons...)</p><p>- Frog (at least give us some cool high level frog with that stuff, these frogs suck.)</p><p>- More sucky hill giants.</p><p>- More sucky spiders, I rather saw more centipedes or scorpions.</p><p>- Tanarukk (you already know I hate halfbreeds eh?)</p><p>- Wilden (nice another elf-like breed...)</p><p>- Xivort (there are enough much more cooler small humanoids already, this one doesn't make sense at all)</p><p> </p><p> </p><p>Finally finished <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Metalmaster, post: 5379408, member: 87714"] Haha cool topic Jester :) I only mention my hated monsters from the 4E monster manuals, to keep it shorter. I love many many monsters, but in every monstermanual there is also a shitload of :):):):):):):):) and things I rather see dumped. MM1: - Tangler Beetle (there are spiders, no need for silk shooting beetles) - Cambion (I never liked halfbloods) - Spinagon (where is hamatula?) - Dragonspawn (all of them, so uninspired) - Drake (all of them, except for rage drake) - Elemental (I prefer the normal elementals, all of these stupid ones suck) - Hill Giant (too much like ogre and ettin, nothing special) - Githzerai (one gith species is enough) - Hobgoblin (I hate them so much, don't understand that everybody likes them) - Stone Golem (I prefer Eidolon) - Grick (ugly stupid thing, mistake to put it into the first MM) - Hippogriff (only griffon please, this is a joke, why not put in a elephantgriff aswel?) - Grimlock (Troglodyte is much better for a blind subterrean creature) - Homunculus (all of them, not monsters, should be in other manual) - Horse (all of them, at least the non monster horses) - Humans (this ain't no monsters, so a waste of space in a monster manual) - Magma Beasts (all but Magma Hurler, boring) - Panther (displacer beast is already a panther) - Giant Rat (why dire rat AND Giant rat? Why not cranium rats or rylkars?) - Shifter (boring, lycanthropes are enough, and I hate halfblood :):):):)) - Tiefling (I hate halfblood :):):):), its preverse) - Dire Wolf (worg is much the same) MM2: - Abyssal Eviscerator (what was his name again? Oh uninspired bunch of :):):):)) - Bloodseep Demon (another stupid demon) - Gnaw Demon (ANOTHER ONE!) - Needle Demon (ARGHHHH!!) - Runespiral Demon (faints) - Deva (I hate perverse creatures from dates with monsters and humans) - Devil (all of them except for Erinyes) (what a worthless bunch of devils in this book!) - Elemental (all of them, except for Dust Devil and Mudman) - Fell Taint (his power is cool, but could be given to a feyr or something more famous) - Fey Lingerer (undead eladrin... well why not make everything undead?) - Ghost Legionnaire (just don't care for this thing) - Iron Golem (too much like shield guardian) - Half-Elf (this must be the most stupid monster ever, and it wastes 2 freaking pages!) - Half-Orc (same as half-elf :):):):)) - Another :):):):) load of Homunculus - Another :):):):) load of humans - Weretiger (yes why not make every animal into a werething? Weretiger looks too much like Rakshasa anyway) - Marut (I don't hate them, but the 2 in the first MM were enough, really) - Gray ooze (Serious dump that :):):):)) - Retriever (give me bebilith over this machine anyday) - More shadar-kai... the ones in the mm1 were enough. - Shark (why not megalodon or something more fresh and original?) - Slaughterstone Construct (Very uninspired and boring, I rather saw Clockwork horrors back in this manual) MM3: - Ape (what is this manual called again? The manual of apes? I'm fine with girallon, yeti and su monsters, but cut these apes) - Another :):):):) load of beholders... really 2 manuals with these cool things is enough, I like beholders, but not these. - Bleh another load of halfbreed cambion... - Rage Devil - Slime Devil - Vizier Devil - Dread Warrior (did this thing really need 2 pages? they are just skeletons...) - Frog (at least give us some cool high level frog with that stuff, these frogs suck.) - More sucky hill giants. - More sucky spiders, I rather saw more centipedes or scorpions. - Tanarukk (you already know I hate halfbreeds eh?) - Wilden (nice another elf-like breed...) - Xivort (there are enough much more cooler small humanoids already, this one doesn't make sense at all) Finally finished :p [/QUOTE]
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