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Monsters to use in a "bear baiting" game?
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<blockquote data-quote="Greenfield" data-source="post: 6060453" data-attributes="member: 6669384"><p>The traditional game wasn't an arena sport or huge spectacle. It pitted hunting dogs, which practically every wealthy man had, against the kind of prey that said wealthy man might hunt.</p><p></p><p>The bets were made not on one opponent or the other. It was on how many dogs died before the bear went down. So yeah, pack animals were called for.</p><p></p><p>A variation on the game was to put the bear on a long chain attached to a stake. It left him with a circle he could move in. He was fitted with a collar that had gold coins dangling from it. Peasants were invited to try and snatch a coin or two. The "sport" was to see which ones were quick enough and which ones got mauled by the angry/hungry bear. Peasants were considered about as expendable as dogs. Moreso in many place, since the dogs had to be trained and the peasants more or less came that way.</p><p></p><p>Then there was Bull Bating, which was done in an arena like pit. Again dogs were used. In fact, that's where the specific breed, the Bulldog, was bred for. It's also where the very specific breed the pit bull, came from. They were bred for the bull pit.</p><p></p><p>So while there are a lot of monsters out there, they have to be things that the sponsor of the event can top, in terms of CR. You don't want things with a fly or burrow speed, nor one with any kind of ranged attack. </p><p></p><p>So base it on the general EL of the setting. Start with black bears, as an example. Advance to Brown/Grizzly then Polar/Kodiak bears. Work your way up in that line for a while.</p><p></p><p>And remember, if it flies, it flies away. If it can burrow, it will. If it has an area effect or ranged attack it will use it not only on the "hounds" (whatever you use in that role), but on spectators as well.</p><p></p><p>If you want long lasting fun (for debatable values of "fun"), use Trolls. You can "kill" them over and over again, and not have to replace them.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Greenfield, post: 6060453, member: 6669384"] The traditional game wasn't an arena sport or huge spectacle. It pitted hunting dogs, which practically every wealthy man had, against the kind of prey that said wealthy man might hunt. The bets were made not on one opponent or the other. It was on how many dogs died before the bear went down. So yeah, pack animals were called for. A variation on the game was to put the bear on a long chain attached to a stake. It left him with a circle he could move in. He was fitted with a collar that had gold coins dangling from it. Peasants were invited to try and snatch a coin or two. The "sport" was to see which ones were quick enough and which ones got mauled by the angry/hungry bear. Peasants were considered about as expendable as dogs. Moreso in many place, since the dogs had to be trained and the peasants more or less came that way. Then there was Bull Bating, which was done in an arena like pit. Again dogs were used. In fact, that's where the specific breed, the Bulldog, was bred for. It's also where the very specific breed the pit bull, came from. They were bred for the bull pit. So while there are a lot of monsters out there, they have to be things that the sponsor of the event can top, in terms of CR. You don't want things with a fly or burrow speed, nor one with any kind of ranged attack. So base it on the general EL of the setting. Start with black bears, as an example. Advance to Brown/Grizzly then Polar/Kodiak bears. Work your way up in that line for a while. And remember, if it flies, it flies away. If it can burrow, it will. If it has an area effect or ranged attack it will use it not only on the "hounds" (whatever you use in that role), but on spectators as well. If you want long lasting fun (for debatable values of "fun"), use Trolls. You can "kill" them over and over again, and not have to replace them. [/QUOTE]
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