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<blockquote data-quote="GreenTengu" data-source="post: 7287312" data-attributes="member: 6777454"><p>You aren't missing anything, but do understand that rules are meant to be a guideline and the ultimate Rule 0 is that the DM has the final word.</p><p></p><p>The intention of this rule is no doubt that because PCs can come in a variety of shapes and sizes, generally one wants to avoid the situation where each armor piece needs to be given a particular size. If you are someone who has ever gained or lost a lot of weight or even just grown during childhood, I think we can all understand that it can be so very easy for a piece of clothing to simply no longer fit us adequately. It would be quite odd for a Dwarf to wear armor fitted to an Elf body and even more so for a Bugbear to put on the clothing that once belonged to a Gnome.</p><p></p><p>So if the DM goes and gives a particular size for each size of armor found, they would be offering the part a lot of stuff that they presumably could simply not use. By being vague about it to a point, it side-steps that issue.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Granted, the issue here is that what is stated in the DM's guide does allow for the wonky situation... According to the rules you cite there, it is correct to say that a huge size blue dragon can put on a helm or a breastplate (although how natural armor works in 5E, I think this would not increase the armor class any as it would not stack with the natural armor and the natural armor would be equal or better) and then if dealt with, a Gnome can swipe the helmet and breastplate and put it on.</p><p></p><p>But I have to think that the majority of DMs would agree that such a thing would be completely immersion breaking and would rule that such a thing is not possible. If they understand that the helm and breastplate are meant to be rewards for the PCs for defeating the dragon, they would just say that they are an unspecified PC size and certainly not dragon size, they would just be in the Dragon's hoarded pile of shinies... If they somehow decided to rule that the dragon was going to use these (despite the fact the dragons are not generally known for wearing armor or helmets unless placed upon them by a human) then they would be dragon size and thus simply not usable by a PC.</p><p></p><p>So while the DMG does technically in black and white present the implication that universally all magical items are able to resize and reshape themselves to fit any body without limit... I just don't think that DMs would generally rule that this would be the case in practice, nor would PCs generally expect such a thing to be possible.</p><p></p><p>The entire DMG is completely optional rules and hardly any DMs use much at all out of it.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="GreenTengu, post: 7287312, member: 6777454"] You aren't missing anything, but do understand that rules are meant to be a guideline and the ultimate Rule 0 is that the DM has the final word. The intention of this rule is no doubt that because PCs can come in a variety of shapes and sizes, generally one wants to avoid the situation where each armor piece needs to be given a particular size. If you are someone who has ever gained or lost a lot of weight or even just grown during childhood, I think we can all understand that it can be so very easy for a piece of clothing to simply no longer fit us adequately. It would be quite odd for a Dwarf to wear armor fitted to an Elf body and even more so for a Bugbear to put on the clothing that once belonged to a Gnome. So if the DM goes and gives a particular size for each size of armor found, they would be offering the part a lot of stuff that they presumably could simply not use. By being vague about it to a point, it side-steps that issue. Granted, the issue here is that what is stated in the DM's guide does allow for the wonky situation... According to the rules you cite there, it is correct to say that a huge size blue dragon can put on a helm or a breastplate (although how natural armor works in 5E, I think this would not increase the armor class any as it would not stack with the natural armor and the natural armor would be equal or better) and then if dealt with, a Gnome can swipe the helmet and breastplate and put it on. But I have to think that the majority of DMs would agree that such a thing would be completely immersion breaking and would rule that such a thing is not possible. If they understand that the helm and breastplate are meant to be rewards for the PCs for defeating the dragon, they would just say that they are an unspecified PC size and certainly not dragon size, they would just be in the Dragon's hoarded pile of shinies... If they somehow decided to rule that the dragon was going to use these (despite the fact the dragons are not generally known for wearing armor or helmets unless placed upon them by a human) then they would be dragon size and thus simply not usable by a PC. So while the DMG does technically in black and white present the implication that universally all magical items are able to resize and reshape themselves to fit any body without limit... I just don't think that DMs would generally rule that this would be the case in practice, nor would PCs generally expect such a thing to be possible. The entire DMG is completely optional rules and hardly any DMs use much at all out of it. [/QUOTE]
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