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<blockquote data-quote="Spatula" data-source="post: 539490" data-attributes="member: 2198">You're thinking about this the wrong way.&nbsp; Soldarin's method is, whatever you get from your monster HD *replaces* what you would have gotten from character HD, it's not retroactive.&nbsp; You add one level to a 12 HD monster, and you have 13 HD - which gets you nothing.&nbsp; If you add two more levels (3 levels total, 15 HD) you get a new feat, because normal characters get a feat at 15th level.&nbsp; You add another level (4 levels total, 16 HD), you get an ability increase.A 12 HD monster isn't a great example.&nbsp; Take an 10 HD monster with class levels.&nbsp; It gets a new feat and an ability increase at 2nd level (12 HD), a second feat at 5th level (15 HD), and an ability increase at 6th level (16 HD).&nbsp; Plus whatever it got from its 10 monster HD.Unfortunately, this topic is not covered anywhere in the DMG, or the other WOTC books with powerful races (FR, OA, etc.).&nbsp; Soldarin's way seems reasonable though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Spatula, post: 539490, member: 2198"] You're thinking about this the wrong way. Soldarin's method is, whatever you get from your monster HD *replaces* what you would have gotten from character HD, it's not retroactive. You add one level to a 12 HD monster, and you have 13 HD - which gets you nothing. If you add two more levels (3 levels total, 15 HD) you get a new feat, because normal characters get a feat at 15th level. You add another level (4 levels total, 16 HD), you get an ability increase. A 12 HD monster isn't a great example. Take an 10 HD monster with class levels. It gets a new feat and an ability increase at 2nd level (12 HD), a second feat at 5th level (15 HD), and an ability increase at 6th level (16 HD). Plus whatever it got from its 10 monster HD. Unfortunately, this topic is not covered anywhere in the DMG, or the other WOTC books with powerful races (FR, OA, etc.). Soldarin's way seems reasonable though. [/QUOTE]

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