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<blockquote data-quote="jmucchiello" data-source="post: 2256390" data-attributes="member: 813"><p>It's because ECLs do not scale upward. Add 20 levels to anything. Is the LA +7 creature really a 27th level threat compared to the 20th level human? Probably not. Probably they are far closer to 21st level vs 20th level and even that is pushing it. 20 levels of a class far outstrips a bunch of racial abilities.</p><p></p><p>IMO, use LA as an XP cost. LA +7 means the character has to waste 28,000 xp before starting at level 1 in a class. Attaining level 2 should only cost 1,000 xp once the 28,000 xp have been spent. Thus the LA+7 character is level 1 when the rest of the party is level 8. After 1,000 xp he gets to level 2. After 8,000 xp the rest of the party gets to level 9 and he is approaching level 4 (2,000 xp away). Eventually, he will be no more than a level behind. YMMV.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="jmucchiello, post: 2256390, member: 813"] It's because ECLs do not scale upward. Add 20 levels to anything. Is the LA +7 creature really a 27th level threat compared to the 20th level human? Probably not. Probably they are far closer to 21st level vs 20th level and even that is pushing it. 20 levels of a class far outstrips a bunch of racial abilities. IMO, use LA as an XP cost. LA +7 means the character has to waste 28,000 xp before starting at level 1 in a class. Attaining level 2 should only cost 1,000 xp once the 28,000 xp have been spent. Thus the LA+7 character is level 1 when the rest of the party is level 8. After 1,000 xp he gets to level 2. After 8,000 xp the rest of the party gets to level 9 and he is approaching level 4 (2,000 xp away). Eventually, he will be no more than a level behind. YMMV. [/QUOTE]
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