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<blockquote data-quote="Consonant Dude" data-source="post: 5921779" data-attributes="member: 6688791"><p>He might not speak for every DM but there are many like him and I am one <img src="data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7" class="smilie smilie--sprite smilie--sprite7" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue :p" loading="lazy" data-shortname=":p" /></p><p></p><p>I think it's good that both sides of the fence can say how they feel and hopefully, WotC can come up with a way to satisfy most of us. Or maybe not. But that's why everybody should speak his mind. </p><p></p><p>And since you mentioned Pathfinder: You might find some things "quick" and "simplified" but they aren't enough for me. That's just how I see it. People who play Pathfinder tend to see things as simple when others find them extremely complicated. </p><p></p><p>Personally, it's definitely a game I hope DnD Next does not take inspiration from. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That might be where the disconnect comes from. To me, it's not the stat blocks that make the creatures, monsters, NPCs populating the world interesting. There's different ways to flavor things other than stats and rules. </p><p> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's definitely not how I want to spend most of my prep time. To me it's more about backstory, motivation, context, personality and all the ramifications that come with this. Not to mention how those things are impacted when the PCs are interacting with the world and those characters and creatures. </p><p></p><p>I do think there is a balance to be had. I'm not saying monsters should be bland. But I'd rather have a stripped down approach that I can build upon and focus on what's important for me. </p><p></p><p>I'm sure others might prefer something else but heh, this is a good time to tell WotC what we each prefer and hopefully, they figure out what's best.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Consonant Dude, post: 5921779, member: 6688791"] He might not speak for every DM but there are many like him and I am one :p I think it's good that both sides of the fence can say how they feel and hopefully, WotC can come up with a way to satisfy most of us. Or maybe not. But that's why everybody should speak his mind. And since you mentioned Pathfinder: You might find some things "quick" and "simplified" but they aren't enough for me. That's just how I see it. People who play Pathfinder tend to see things as simple when others find them extremely complicated. Personally, it's definitely a game I hope DnD Next does not take inspiration from. That might be where the disconnect comes from. To me, it's not the stat blocks that make the creatures, monsters, NPCs populating the world interesting. There's different ways to flavor things other than stats and rules. That's definitely not how I want to spend most of my prep time. To me it's more about backstory, motivation, context, personality and all the ramifications that come with this. Not to mention how those things are impacted when the PCs are interacting with the world and those characters and creatures. I do think there is a balance to be had. I'm not saying monsters should be bland. But I'd rather have a stripped down approach that I can build upon and focus on what's important for me. I'm sure others might prefer something else but heh, this is a good time to tell WotC what we each prefer and hopefully, they figure out what's best. [/QUOTE]
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