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<blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5922321" data-attributes="member: 87792"><p>Ah. So you're talking about things you don't actually know about. Right.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So don't prepare them then and spend your extra free time down the pub.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>And here you have been told by many, many people with experience DMing both 3.x and 4e that you are completely wrong. The edition that makes the biggest difference is 3.X because you are meant to spend as much time on most statblocks as you would on a PC of that level.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Now I see the problem. You think everyone can and must prepare as you do right now when you have no experience of what you use as examples.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Um... no. The abandoned edition after an unprecidentedly short run was <strong>3.0</strong>. That lasted three years before it was replaced by an <em>incompatable</em> game where they went far enough to change the shape of a horse. There are greater differences IMO between 3.0 and 3.5 than between 1e and 2e.</p><p></p><p>Meanwhile 4e is still having material published for it - and much of the crunch in the most recent book is compatable with the PHB but not usable with only Essentials. So you can't claim Essentials is a new edition. Will 4e last longer than 3.5? I don't know. I expect so - just. I'm expecting a January 2014 release date for 5e for the 40th anniversary. Meaning 3.5 lasted from 2003 to 2008 and 4e will have lasted from 2008 to 2014. The longest run of any WoTC edition.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>If you publish next to nothing, that's what you get. Pathfinder took the top spot in part by publishing much more stuff - the 4e release rate has recently been anaemic. And Pathfinder publishers have IIRC gone on record saying that a lot of their customers do not currently play D&D.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>As a DM I find this assertion laughable. The 3.X treatment of monsters as PCs is the single biggest waste of time in the history of D&D. It sounded like a good idea at the time (like a lot of 3.X) but getting rid of it was just accepting that an experiment had failed.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>They aren't that different. Except that the DM needs to do hundreds of times more things, each of which should have about a hundredth of the spotlight. You do not <em>need</em> that detail.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p><img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f635.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt="O_o" title="Er... what? O_o" data-smilie="12"data-shortname="O_o" /> We can take a pretty good <em>guess</em>. And it's not length that matters. It's screentime.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Neonchameleon, post: 5922321, member: 87792"] Ah. So you're talking about things you don't actually know about. Right. So don't prepare them then and spend your extra free time down the pub. And here you have been told by many, many people with experience DMing both 3.x and 4e that you are completely wrong. The edition that makes the biggest difference is 3.X because you are meant to spend as much time on most statblocks as you would on a PC of that level. Now I see the problem. You think everyone can and must prepare as you do right now when you have no experience of what you use as examples. Um... no. The abandoned edition after an unprecidentedly short run was [B]3.0[/B]. That lasted three years before it was replaced by an [I]incompatable[/I] game where they went far enough to change the shape of a horse. There are greater differences IMO between 3.0 and 3.5 than between 1e and 2e. Meanwhile 4e is still having material published for it - and much of the crunch in the most recent book is compatable with the PHB but not usable with only Essentials. So you can't claim Essentials is a new edition. Will 4e last longer than 3.5? I don't know. I expect so - just. I'm expecting a January 2014 release date for 5e for the 40th anniversary. Meaning 3.5 lasted from 2003 to 2008 and 4e will have lasted from 2008 to 2014. The longest run of any WoTC edition. If you publish next to nothing, that's what you get. Pathfinder took the top spot in part by publishing much more stuff - the 4e release rate has recently been anaemic. And Pathfinder publishers have IIRC gone on record saying that a lot of their customers do not currently play D&D. As a DM I find this assertion laughable. The 3.X treatment of monsters as PCs is the single biggest waste of time in the history of D&D. It sounded like a good idea at the time (like a lot of 3.X) but getting rid of it was just accepting that an experiment had failed. They aren't that different. Except that the DM needs to do hundreds of times more things, each of which should have about a hundredth of the spotlight. You do not [I]need[/I] that detail. O_o We can take a pretty good [I]guess[/I]. And it's not length that matters. It's screentime. [/QUOTE]
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