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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Neonchameleon" data-source="post: 5922735" data-attributes="member: 87792">The thing is that your empirical first hand observations come from the way you use the monster manuals and monster stats and not the way anyone else I have ever met wants to use them.As I understand it (and correct me if I'm wrong please) you hold the following premises:<ol> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You consider all monsters should be as detailed as PCs despite wildly differing screen time</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You either go into world building in such detail that there are almost no NPCs the PCs are going to meet who you haven't statted or your PCs are going to stick to that railroad like glue so there are no NPCs the PCs are going to meet that you haven't statted</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You consider a perfect answer that takes ages to be better than a good answer right now.  In essence you consider your time has no value.</li> <li data-xf-list-type="ol">You have a philosophical aversion to there being actual detail in the monster manual and therefore refuse to use the statblocks that provide the detail on the monster where the rubber meets the road and an outline the rest of the time.</li> </ol>With these premises I can see why your empirical experience is different from literally everyone else I have ever spoken to.  But IME points 1 and 3 put you far outside the normal line of DMs.  Point 4 means you literally refuse to use the features of the 4e monster manual - no wonder you don't find its features an improvement when you don't use them.  And point 2 means your players must be very well trained or you take an incredible amount of time worldbuilding.  (As for your understanding of "The theory behind this game", you've pitched a 3.X hypothesis that has been rejected by literally every other edition as part of your theory).Now there are problems with the 4e Monster Manual 1.  And you can criticise that as a document on many issues (most of which have been fixed by the time we reach Monster Vault).  Boring monsters.  Too little and poorly written fluff.  Too little damage.  Dragons being too easy to stunlock.  All fixed.  These are all about the doccument of the Monster Manual 1 and 4e is the only edition of D&D ever (or at least since 1975) where literally every monster manual has been better than the previous one.There are also issues people have with 4e - and a whole lot of issues people have with the presentation of 4e.  But putting the monster statblocks on that list is weird.</blockquote>

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