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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mengu" data-source="post: 5008088" data-attributes="member: 65726">Pre-racial, pick one:1. Str 18, Con 14, Dex 10, Int 8, Wis 11, Cha 10 2. Str 16, Con 16, Dex 11, Int 8, Wis 13, Cha 103. Str 16, Con 14, Dex 13, Int 8, Wis 14, Cha 10All 3 have merit. I'd go with the first one (for all builds) because it's essentially the most min-maxed for this exercise, and a degree of optimization is good so we can compare apples to apples when we start altering parameters. I think #2 is a more "run of the mill" option, and #3 is the more "forward thinker" option.I think the Half-orc will be a good second test candidate for the fighter (once temp HP's are implemented), Furious Assault and Half-orc Resilience will both be interesting boosts to survival. Also will be curious to see how something like Thirst for Battle influences outcomes.Longtooth Shifter (regeneration and +2 damage with shifting), Dragonborn (+1 attack while bloodied, higher surge value, minor action attack), Drow (combat advantage for 2 rounds, and -5 attack to enemy), Goliath (resistance, greatweapon prowess), and Githzerai (initiative boost, blade master, per encounter defense boost) might be some other interesting options. Warforged might be interesting too, but it won't be that different than Goliath.</blockquote>