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Message: <blockquote data-quote="UngeheuerLich" data-source="post: 5687576" data-attributes="member: 59057">But if you look at 3rd edition, no matter how problematic parts of it was, it was a great game that revived D&D.I also had more fun with 3.0, because even though some things were less balanced, it was closer to ADnD and didn´t encourage the use of minis.All in all, it was more DMcentric, as figuring out the amount of cover e.g. was more or less a decision of the DM...More fiddly, yes.More imbalanced,yesbut it was a lot closer to its roots, and the worst offenders, druids, were not that imbalanced...And i guess, people who believed D&D 3.5 is all bad are no longer actually working on 4E. And this was a mistake!3.x really had flaws. But it also had very very great parts. And not all of them were retained in the pathfinder conversion.I would really like to read what monte cook´s design principles were.@ 5e:In no way will 5e come out, before character builder, adventure tools etc have been released fully functional.It is very very important for their credibility that they bring out a good working program as promised, no matter how ling it takes.It is also important for them to have such tools for 5e.And if you ask me, they need to fully support 4e tools for those who like to stay with 4e. There is no reasons for them to withdraw them, as no matter if you play 4e or 5e, you give them money.So in a perfect world, we have 5e sooner than later, best if we all can take part in some kind of beta test.</blockquote>

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