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Monte Cook Games Announced Numenera 2: Discovery & Destiny!
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<blockquote data-quote="Mistwell" data-source="post: 7722448" data-attributes="member: 2525"><p>I've been following for 20 years, his comment was 14 years ago. And yes, it's the first negative comment I've made. If you think I cannot follow a writer for 20 years and somehow not be allowed to have a single negative comment in that whole time, might I say I think your accusation that I am the one biased here should be examined. </p><p></p><p>I am not doubting his character or integrity. I am saying I am having a hard time reconciling his previous fairly intense and aggressive criticism of his former employer for doing something which now he appears to be doing for his own company. I want to know why the change in his thinking on the matter. I want to consider if his prior words on the topic are still applicable to his new product. Him changing his mind because he's the publisher doesn't mean a consumer should change their mind. After all, the consumer is in the position he was in when he first criticized these types of actions 14 years ago. The consumer isn't the publisher, and if it's the fact that Monte Cook is now the publisher than has changed his mind, that would tend to suggest the consumer might gain more wisdom from his words when he was also a consumer and not a publisher.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>That's on you. Once I clarified, your obligation is to adjust your assumptions about my thinking to meet the stated intent. If you continue to assume my intentions are different than what I've stated, I guess just call me a liar rather than beat around the bush? Otherwise, you have my stated intent and I'd ask you to believe me. I feel I am giving him plenty of benefit of the doubt. If you're reading a tone into my posts which runs contrary to that, then don't read that tone into my posts as it's not the intended tone.</p><p></p><p>As for planning a new version at the time the first is published, I don't see that as inherently wrong. Monte didn't agree with it 20 years ago, but he may have changed his mind (like he seems to have about many subjects - because he's human and 20 years have gone by and his entire life has changed in that span of time), and it may not have been that big an aspect of his objections to begin with. After all, he wrote 3.0 knowing that was the plan up front - he didn't like it but he still went ahead with it. So it doesn't seem it was a huge objection on his part even back then.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Mistwell, post: 7722448, member: 2525"] I've been following for 20 years, his comment was 14 years ago. And yes, it's the first negative comment I've made. If you think I cannot follow a writer for 20 years and somehow not be allowed to have a single negative comment in that whole time, might I say I think your accusation that I am the one biased here should be examined. I am not doubting his character or integrity. I am saying I am having a hard time reconciling his previous fairly intense and aggressive criticism of his former employer for doing something which now he appears to be doing for his own company. I want to know why the change in his thinking on the matter. I want to consider if his prior words on the topic are still applicable to his new product. Him changing his mind because he's the publisher doesn't mean a consumer should change their mind. After all, the consumer is in the position he was in when he first criticized these types of actions 14 years ago. The consumer isn't the publisher, and if it's the fact that Monte Cook is now the publisher than has changed his mind, that would tend to suggest the consumer might gain more wisdom from his words when he was also a consumer and not a publisher. That's on you. Once I clarified, your obligation is to adjust your assumptions about my thinking to meet the stated intent. If you continue to assume my intentions are different than what I've stated, I guess just call me a liar rather than beat around the bush? Otherwise, you have my stated intent and I'd ask you to believe me. I feel I am giving him plenty of benefit of the doubt. If you're reading a tone into my posts which runs contrary to that, then don't read that tone into my posts as it's not the intended tone. As for planning a new version at the time the first is published, I don't see that as inherently wrong. Monte didn't agree with it 20 years ago, but he may have changed his mind (like he seems to have about many subjects - because he's human and 20 years have gone by and his entire life has changed in that span of time), and it may not have been that big an aspect of his objections to begin with. After all, he wrote 3.0 knowing that was the plan up front - he didn't like it but he still went ahead with it. So it doesn't seem it was a huge objection on his part even back then. [/QUOTE]
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