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Message: <blockquote data-quote="ArchfiendBobbie" data-source="post: 7722491" data-attributes="member: 6867728">I find it ironic that you are criticizing me on objectivity while lacking it yourself. And that you criticize me for lack of history knowledge when perusing this very thread would reveal the comments Cook made that fueled those fights. Mayhap you should take your own advice on researching the history of the hobby.Let's take a look at the long-run results of that combination: Cook ended up bashing Hasbro massively, making comments that helped massively fuel the ongoing edition wars of that era between the two versions of 3E, and helped set the foundation for the rules revision, and resulting near-death of DnD, that was 4E. And in the end, Cook managed to regain a lot of the respect he lost during that era by publishing a ruleset that is pretty much nothing like the ruleset he fought for.Skip Williams... Notice how he quickly faded from the limelight once his time at Wizards was done? Can you name the last thing you've seen him working on regularly in this industry? And there are people still arguing about some of the things he said in his Sage Advice columns, which was another source of nasty fights and only helped solidify the base of the RAW crowd.Pathfinder is only a good argument for damning Cook. Cook opposed the 3.5 ruleset, which Pathfinder is a revision of. PF's success ultimately stands as a shining example of how wrong he was.And, yes, I called them flawed people and suggested their working together was a mistake. Given the edition wars of the 3E era between the 3.0 and 3.5 factions, and the still-lingering wounds from that period plus the epic failure of the follow-up edition that tried to solve the problems... Yeah, it was a mistake. Not a mistake I'd change, but also not one they should repeat.Objectivity doesn't mean seeing only the good in something. It means accepting the bad as well, and accepting that, sometimes, your heroes were terrible people or even outright monsters. It means looking at three people who did good things and recognizing that they also did quite a bit that wasn't good.</blockquote>

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