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<blockquote data-quote="Doctor Futurity" data-source="post: 7665830" data-attributes="member: 10738"><p>I really do disagree here. I won't comment on the level of vitriolic commentary expressed by those in the petition, but I really do think that in all honesty the Thunder Plains write-up in The Strange is just a poorly-conceived, poorly researched piece of junk that hurts their setting and design. With very little effort that entire four-page section could have been made much more interesting if some actual research had been put into it. From a purely anthropological view what they wrote misses huge story opportunities and dramatically closes the door an all sorts of interesting possibilities for an expanded write-up by painting themselves into the most trite corner imaginable. If the plan was not to do to do more than four pages on Thunder Plains, ever, then why even include it? They could have focused on so many other areas of history and culture that would have benefited from those four pages. Instead what we have is something that does the following:</p><p></p><p>1. If you are Native American, and especially if you have geneaology within the Plains groups, you are going to be either at least mildly offended at this broken stereotype with mischaracterization of your family history. At best you might be "okay" with it but then have to scrap the whole work to produce something that makes any sense as someone who actually has some understanding of your own history and culture.</p><p></p><p>2. If you are like me, a white guy with a background in Anthropology, you will be seriously annoyed at the lack of research effort and missed opportunities that the four-page writeup offers and end up scrapping it to do something that makes any sense at all.</p><p></p><p>3. If you are neither of the above and don't care about NA cultures enough to notice why its a problem, odds are very strong that you won't even use Thunder Plains for more than a one-off at some point. If Thunder Plains was actually properly researched and representative of its source material, than at this point you might accidentally learn some useful facts about Plains cultures from an alt-history perspective, so a revision would actually do some good; but as it stands, you have zero investment, learn nothing, and probably won't use it.</p><p></p><p><strong>So....a revision to this material which is more culturally and historically accurate can hurt absolutely no one and benefit absolutely everyone.</strong></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Doctor Futurity, post: 7665830, member: 10738"] I really do disagree here. I won't comment on the level of vitriolic commentary expressed by those in the petition, but I really do think that in all honesty the Thunder Plains write-up in The Strange is just a poorly-conceived, poorly researched piece of junk that hurts their setting and design. With very little effort that entire four-page section could have been made much more interesting if some actual research had been put into it. From a purely anthropological view what they wrote misses huge story opportunities and dramatically closes the door an all sorts of interesting possibilities for an expanded write-up by painting themselves into the most trite corner imaginable. If the plan was not to do to do more than four pages on Thunder Plains, ever, then why even include it? They could have focused on so many other areas of history and culture that would have benefited from those four pages. Instead what we have is something that does the following: 1. If you are Native American, and especially if you have geneaology within the Plains groups, you are going to be either at least mildly offended at this broken stereotype with mischaracterization of your family history. At best you might be "okay" with it but then have to scrap the whole work to produce something that makes any sense as someone who actually has some understanding of your own history and culture. 2. If you are like me, a white guy with a background in Anthropology, you will be seriously annoyed at the lack of research effort and missed opportunities that the four-page writeup offers and end up scrapping it to do something that makes any sense at all. 3. If you are neither of the above and don't care about NA cultures enough to notice why its a problem, odds are very strong that you won't even use Thunder Plains for more than a one-off at some point. If Thunder Plains was actually properly researched and representative of its source material, than at this point you might accidentally learn some useful facts about Plains cultures from an alt-history perspective, so a revision would actually do some good; but as it stands, you have zero investment, learn nothing, and probably won't use it. [B]So....a revision to this material which is more culturally and historically accurate can hurt absolutely no one and benefit absolutely everyone.[/B] [/QUOTE]
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