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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Connorsrpg" data-source="post: 5858713" data-attributes="member: 19265">It is all well and good to have these 'recommendations', but then they become more than that. they become default for one of the most important part of the game: modules/adventures.In fact, I believe this is one of the reasons 4E Adventures were not well received: many slogs vs kobolds (and did anyone do the troll one?) of many fights all at around the correct challenge rating/XP budget and then a +3 level one (or however they worded it) for BB fight. Players could predict the 'level' of the encounter through metagaming - not based upon the description of the creatures they met!Even worse - adventures were expected to follow these 'recommendations/guidelines' or your module/adventure would not be published. Thus over ALL of the 4E adventure modules and Dungeon articles how many total encounters would have been over 3 levels above the average party, or even worse, 2+ levels below. If it is not a 'fair' challenge it is not considered, though our home games were infinitely more interesting b/c the PCs could encounter creatures well above and below expected.That is why I don't want a 'set standard' (as well as the reasons mentioned above) - just advice for GM.</blockquote>