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Message: <blockquote data-quote="kennew142" data-source="post: 3940043" data-attributes="member: 18490">I agree totally. There is some awesome 3e stuff out there, including most of the Malhavoc Press stuff, the Freeport line, Arcanis, etc....Nevertheless, I believe that very few D&D players bother to look at non-WOTC materials. I've had this problem for years trying to grow Living Arcanis in the Tucson area. Once I got players to give it a try, they were hooked on the superb storylines and incredibly deep world. Many players simply refused to try anything that wasn't official D&D.This problem was exacerbated once D&D 3.5 came out. We lost more than half our player base during the transition period when the campaign was still using D&D 3.0 rules. I use this campaign as an example due to my years of experience with it. Understanding the difficulties of getting product out when even the SRD hasn't become available, I believe that third party product lines are going to suffer very badly if they don't convert fairly quickly to D&D 4e.There is a very vocal group on the internet that decries the new edition. Leaving aside for the moment whether their complaints are valid, I can't help but feel that the vast majority of D&D players will convert quickly and will eschew the older edition. Every month, we ran 6-8 tables of Living Arcanis at our game days. This was in addition to the slots zero. After D&D 3.5 came out, we dropped down to 2-3 with no slots zero. Once the campaign did convert we rose to about 4 tables with slots zero again. The campaign that outplayed LG 3:2 at our game days and local convention fell into a distant second.I don't want to see this happen to excellent lines. Freeport is now edition proof, so I don't think they'll have a problem. I'm not so sure about other lines. <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"  class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid    :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /></blockquote>

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