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<blockquote data-quote="HeinorNY" data-source="post: 3940966" data-attributes="member: 16178">Gameogre at least has an valid point, but what is the point of your post?You &quot;don't know what's going on&quot; and &quot;don't have any numbers&quot;, so what are you really talking about? What is your conclusion? I don't need numbers, D&amp;D was always the most played game ever, it's not even in the same chart of the other RPGs, and those are Monte's words.&quot;The idea that people are as unhappy with 3.X now as they were with 2E is IMO ridiculous.&quot;I am, and I know people that are, so your statement is false.I also know people that loved 2E and said the same things about 3E back them as what other people are saying now about 4E (all ppl I know and talked outside the internet).If back then there was less internet access and discussion about D&amp;D: -considering that today is much easier for everyone to give his rant about the game -considering the amount of complain we had in Enworld then about 3E and the amount of complain about 4E we have now-considering the increase in the number of D&amp;D playersI have the feeling that things are pretty much the same. There is no &quot;special&quot; situation now, no hidden &quot;truth&quot;.I also have the feeling that people is trying to disconnect both situtations, the 2E-3E Era fromm now, the 3E-4E Era, as a way to validate their complains about the new edition, like: &quot;No, it's not like 8 years ago, it's different, this new edition now truly sucks!&quot;</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HeinorNY, post: 3940966, member: 16178"] Gameogre at least has an valid point, but what is the point of your post? You "don't know what's going on" and "don't have any numbers", so what are you really talking about? What is your conclusion? I don't need numbers, D&D was always the most played game ever, it's not even in the same chart of the other RPGs, and those are Monte's words. "The idea that people are as unhappy with 3.X now as they were with 2E is IMO ridiculous." I am, and I know people that are, so your statement is false. I also know people that loved 2E and said the same things about 3E back them as what other people are saying now about 4E (all ppl I know and talked outside the internet). If back then there was less internet access and discussion about D&D: -considering that today is much easier for everyone to give his rant about the game -considering the amount of complain we had in Enworld then about 3E and the amount of complain about 4E we have now -considering the increase in the number of D&D players I have the feeling that things are pretty much the same. There is no "special" situation now, no hidden "truth". I also have the feeling that people is trying to disconnect both situtations, the 2E-3E Era fromm now, the 3E-4E Era, as a way to validate their complains about the new edition, like: "No, it's not like 8 years ago, it's different, this new edition now truly sucks!" [/QUOTE]

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