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<blockquote data-quote="Balesir" data-source="post: 7695760" data-attributes="member: 27160">Thanks for the condescending cheap shot, but that is the discussion between you and [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] and nothing to do with what I was responding to.This is tangentially related to what&nbsp; Iwas responding to, because the representation of what was originally asked and your response was not quite like this. What I was responding to was these comments about the possibility of &quot;unexpected reinforcements&quot;:My &quot;point&quot; is that all of this is a great big strawman, because the appearance of additional foes during a fight does not necessarily imply or require &quot;totally undetectable creatures&quot; that &quot;can appear out of thin air&quot;, forces that are &quot;perfectly hidden&quot; or an &quot;auto fail on perception&quot;.Sure, unexpected reinforcements should not be used too often - but that applies to all types of intrusions, I would think. But creatures - even hostile ones - hoving into view is a perfectly natural part of real life, many types of fiction and several roleplaying games (apart from yours, apparently).No, I'm reacting to what I read you saying. I'm not even trying to follow your overarching &quot;point&quot;, since it seems to mutate according to what arguments are made against you. You adhere well to the dictum &quot;attack is the best means of defence&quot;, but your &quot;defence&quot; appears to be just ignoring any points that counter your thrusts. To be honest, I expect the same again.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Balesir, post: 7695760, member: 27160"] Thanks for the condescending cheap shot, but that is the discussion between you and [MENTION=42582]pemerton[/MENTION] and nothing to do with what I was responding to. This is tangentially related to what Iwas responding to, because the representation of what was originally asked and your response was not quite like this. What I was responding to was these comments about the possibility of "unexpected reinforcements": My "point" is that all of this is a great big strawman, because the appearance of additional foes during a fight does not necessarily imply or require "totally undetectable creatures" that "can appear out of thin air", forces that are "perfectly hidden" or an "auto fail on perception". Sure, unexpected reinforcements should not be used too often - but that applies to [B][I]all[/I][/B] types of intrusions, I would think. But creatures - even hostile ones - hoving into view is a perfectly natural part of real life, many types of fiction and several roleplaying games (apart from yours, apparently). No, I'm reacting to what I read you saying. I'm not even trying to follow your overarching "point", since it seems to mutate according to what arguments are made against you. You adhere well to the dictum "attack is the best means of defence", but your "defence" appears to be just ignoring any points that counter your thrusts. To be honest, I expect the same again. [/QUOTE]

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