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Message: <blockquote data-quote="TiQuinn" data-source="post: 998137" data-attributes="member: 4871">It seems that this review brought out all the usual suspects in 3.5 debate threads.My own personal thoughts:Regarding the review itself, I think that I wouldn't buy a copy of the revision that Monte describes.  It sounds more akin to the update of the 2nd edition handbook which include primarily errata and minor changes.  But I will buy a book that includes changes to Haste, Hold Person, Harm, the Ranger class, the Bard class, etc., etc.  I'm unconcerned with whether this is called version 3.0, 3.01, 3.5, or 4.0.  To me, it's money that I need to shell out if I want to have the book, so they're all new versions AFAIC.Yeah, reading Monte's part of the review where he talks about being in the meeting where 3.5 was being discussed around the time of the 3.0 edition, I couldn't help but think there was a little drama being inserted there.  But he has a great point that in business what you often begin plans for, ends up being implemented by someone else.  But because it is a truism, you inevitably have to shrug and move on.I don't get bothered by the fact that the decision to release this was financially motivated.  I'm also not blind to the fact either.I haven't seen a version of this game yet, or any other game, that somebody hasn't house ruled at some point or another.I'm just a player and a DM, I'm not a game designer.  I'm sure the new books have a different impact on them than it does on myself.I'm amazed by the folks who are preparing to re-base their miniatures due to the new spacing rules.  That's a lot of work just to keep current with the rules.  I certainly wouldn't do it until I saw how much of a problem (or lack thereof) the new spacing rules cause...and even then, I probably wouldn't do it.BTW, Merric, Monte's been pretty forthright about goofs made in 3.0 and things he would change if he could go back and do it again.  I think his point is that he wouldn't make those changes for a revision, no matter how badly he wanted to.  He'd wait and do it when it's time to release 4th edition.</blockquote>

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