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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5694424" data-attributes="member: 82106">Except you STILL have to rank things, you have to know that rank 'awesome' is better than rank 'master', or whatever. You've LOST required information, which you now have to keep looking up (and trust me, players and even many DMs will not keep those things straight. How many people manage to keep Combat Challenge and Combat Superiority straight).You can say "numbers don't flow" but there's no flowing going on, there's a comparison of ordinality, which is a numeric function. It is a mistake to use some other method than numbers for ordination, it is just an obscure layer of indirection. Nothing is added, and frankly it is really seriously hard to know that "big number means I'm better at something"? I'm thinking if that's a tough concept for people then I'm really not sure how they have the mentality required to play 4e at all.</blockquote>