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<blockquote data-quote="Mustrum_Ridcully" data-source="post: 5693805" data-attributes="member: 710">But aren't you going too far with the idea of &quot;passive&quot; checks here? Aren't you applying it to something where it might just not be needed?Passive checks makes sense in some cases, but not all. In the case of perception, the act of rolling has metagaming implications&nbsp; - you _know_ that you arerolling for something. That there is something worth rolling for. Or you spend a lot of time rolling for nothing, because the DM tries to keep you&nbsp; on your toes.So for Perception and Insight/Sense Motive, we try to reduce the amount of dice rolls, to avoid unnecessary ones while still preserving tensions and surprise. But for combat - we can roll. We don't need to preserve some mystery by hiding the combat rolls.Now, you could ask for something more complex that makes perception as involved as combat. But I don't think that's sensible,b ecause the act of &quot;looking&quot; is just not that interesting and doesn't contain out of so many concious and visible elements as a combat would do. So a higher level of abstraction here is okay IMO.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Mustrum_Ridcully, post: 5693805, member: 710"] But aren't you going too far with the idea of "passive" checks here? Aren't you applying it to something where it might just not be needed? Passive checks makes sense in some cases, but not all. In the case of perception, the act of rolling has metagaming implications - you _know_ that you arerolling for something. That there is something worth rolling for. Or you spend a lot of time rolling for nothing, because the DM tries to keep you on your toes. So for Perception and Insight/Sense Motive, we try to reduce the amount of dice rolls, to avoid unnecessary ones while still preserving tensions and surprise. But for combat - we can roll. We don't need to preserve some mystery by hiding the combat rolls. Now, you could ask for something more complex that makes perception as involved as combat. But I don't think that's sensible,b ecause the act of "looking" is just not that interesting and doesn't contain out of so many concious and visible elements as a combat would do. So a higher level of abstraction here is okay IMO. [/QUOTE]

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