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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Psion" data-source="post: 3564570" data-attributes="member: 172">Oh well.As I have said, done and done in a manner acceptable for playable PCs are two different things.Some of us happen to feel that "roleplaying mechanics" are intrusive and let players do lip service to roleplaying.Though WoD is not as bad as some, I still don't find it especially good either. Under the much vaunted virtue/vice pairing, a poor role player can (and in my actual experience, does) typically go for the all too convenient "I'm a vampire sex fiend".You can lead a horse to water, but you cannot make him drink.You are quite right. I think I have a pretty good judgment of what is going to work in my game and what will not, and I found Fang & Fury to be not of the same caliber as other books in the series. It doesn't so much add any depth to vampires and parse out the same old D&D vampire over several small meals. Overall, weak and uninteresting, not comparing to the depth that WoD applies to vampires at all.White Wolf is not a small company among gaming companies. They doubtless retain an IP lawyer, and have used this technique before. If there were legal troubles, they would have been notified and desisted by now.So I'll trust that over internet armchair lawyering.</blockquote>