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<blockquote data-quote="bleezy" data-source="post: 6426048" data-attributes="member: 6778458"><p>I think you two both agree with each other. We all agree that no druid should have access to every animal shape and that a druid must describe his homeland. Just about every region of the world should have large predators that the druid would easily have encountered in his early life. He either gets wolf/bear or hyena/lion/rhino/elephant or jaguar/giant snake or tiger.</p><p></p><p>IRL I spent years hiking in the Santa Cruz mountains and never saw a cougar, but saw a pack of wolves eating a elk after 3 days in Yellowstone. So it is clearly possible to get lucky and see a top predator on a short visit to a new area, but that should generally be the sort of thing that is part of an actual play session (your DM says "you see a pack of wolves feasting on a kill") as opposed to something the player just makes up on his own.</p><p></p><p>It is also worth noting that the animal forms are best against really powerful monsters or those with advantage that would generally hit a low level character no matter what his AC is. Likewise, a second level character with 80+ effective HP is going to fare much better than a high-AC fighter against spell attacks and area effects that don't use attack rolls. Against swarms of weaker monsters the low AC is a bigger handicap (but then the bear has multiattack so that helps).</p><p></p><p>Reminding the druid player that he couldn't talk in bear form would probably get him to shift back to human form after every fight, but it might be a little mean considering most groups probably talk about combat tactics and adventure strategy OOC.</p><p></p><p>Edit: And I wouldn't let any player start with giant or prehistoric animal forms. Those would absolutely need to be encountered in an adventure.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="bleezy, post: 6426048, member: 6778458"] I think you two both agree with each other. We all agree that no druid should have access to every animal shape and that a druid must describe his homeland. Just about every region of the world should have large predators that the druid would easily have encountered in his early life. He either gets wolf/bear or hyena/lion/rhino/elephant or jaguar/giant snake or tiger. IRL I spent years hiking in the Santa Cruz mountains and never saw a cougar, but saw a pack of wolves eating a elk after 3 days in Yellowstone. So it is clearly possible to get lucky and see a top predator on a short visit to a new area, but that should generally be the sort of thing that is part of an actual play session (your DM says "you see a pack of wolves feasting on a kill") as opposed to something the player just makes up on his own. It is also worth noting that the animal forms are best against really powerful monsters or those with advantage that would generally hit a low level character no matter what his AC is. Likewise, a second level character with 80+ effective HP is going to fare much better than a high-AC fighter against spell attacks and area effects that don't use attack rolls. Against swarms of weaker monsters the low AC is a bigger handicap (but then the bear has multiattack so that helps). Reminding the druid player that he couldn't talk in bear form would probably get him to shift back to human form after every fight, but it might be a little mean considering most groups probably talk about combat tactics and adventure strategy OOC. Edit: And I wouldn't let any player start with giant or prehistoric animal forms. Those would absolutely need to be encountered in an adventure. [/QUOTE]
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